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Is Chrome the New IE? (2023)

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Re: Is Chrome the New IE? (2023)

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Post by zero_bias »

lmm wrote: post #200
bloppe wrote: post #163

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Am I the only one left happily using Firefox? You know, the only "major" browser that doesn't seem to have these conflicts of interest?

The Firefox that gets the vast majority of its revenue from Google, that Firefox? I think the only full-featured browser with a prosocial funding model is Konqueror, where what little money there is mostly comes from EU grants. Not coincidental that its code quality was so much better that everyone else based on its rendering engine.

Konqueror no longer uses its unique KHTML engine and has switched to working on top of WebKit/Safari, making it just a wrapper, similar to Brave. It’s a pity that the last truly independent player in the browser engine market is gone, but such are the realities.

Re: Is Chrome the New IE? (2023)

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Post by p0w3n3d »

Yes it is. I use Firefox wherever I can to not allow one company to take over the internet with their toxic patterns (manifest v3, disallowing screenshotting on pages, breaking their services on other browsers etc.)

Re: Is Chrome the New IE? (2023)

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Post by p0w3n3d »

crowcroft wrote: post #97

Yes, Chrome is the de facto standard, and often the only browser thoroughly tested against. Even now though it isn't as dominant as IE at its peak though. No, Chrome isn't significantly behind on adopting new standards compared with other major browsers (I'm looking at you Safari). IE6 to IE7 was about five years!

but Chromium being used in Windows' Edge makes it much more

Re: Is Chrome the New IE? (2023)

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Post by EasyMark »

fenomas wrote: post #233
gregable wrote: post #221

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Except you can't. Every browser on iOS uses Safari's rendering engine. Chrome/Firefox on iOS are effectively reskinned Safari. This is an apple requirement. The rendering engine being the important part here when talking about standards and such.

> effectively reskinned Safari It's worse than that, even - IIRC the renderer that other browsers have to use is slower and more limited than the one Safari uses. So other browsers are effectively reskinned hobbled Safari.

A rendering engine is not a browser. Are all the Chrome engine variants really just Chrome in a skin? I don’t think so they all have unique properties that set them apart. As do Orion, Firefox, brave, etc on iOS

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Post by fenomas »

EasyMark wrote: post #314
fenomas wrote: post #233

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> effectively reskinned Safari It's worse than that, even - IIRC the renderer that other browsers have to use is slower and more limited than the one Safari uses. So other browsers are effectively reskinned hobbled Safari.

A rendering engine is not a browser. Are all the Chrome engine variants really just Chrome in a skin? I don’t think so they all have unique properties that set them apart. As do Orion, Firefox, brave, etc on iOS

I wouldn't consider other chromium browsers reskinned because they're using the chromium engine as a dependency, by choice. They can customize it as much or as little as they want (and I'd imagine they do to various extents).

Browsers on iOS can't - they are required (legally, not technologically) to use (a worse version of) Safari's engine. Chrome for iOS is not the browser that the chrome team wants to distribute, it's a browser Apple made that has been customized to the extent that Apple allows it to be customized. What is that if not reskinned?

Re: Is Chrome the New IE? (2023)

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Post by Woeps »

alsetmusic wrote: post #309
Woeps wrote: post #282

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In Europe Safari has decent 21%. Thus I would not neglect Apples web browser but calling it very important is going a step to far in my opinion.

One in five is not enough to be very important? I disagree.

Good, that's allowed :)
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