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Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

Is it "childish antics" for the Guardian to have their own political viewpoint? Musk can have a preferred candidate and political stance. And he can run Twitter accordingly. The Guardian can have a preferred candidate and political stance. And they can choose the platforms they use accordingly. It all seems perfectly reasonable to me.

>Musk can have a preferred candidate and political stance. And he can run Twitter accordingly

Except he'll be going up against Musk 2022 and his tweet below:

>For Twitter to deserve public trust, it must be politically neutral, which effectively means upsetting the far right and the far left equally

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"Reality has a well-known liberal bias" There's a difference between being objective and being unbiased.

wtf. Dictionary.com says "Objective most commonly means not influenced by an individual’s personal viewpoint—unbiased (or at least attempting to be unbiased). It’s often used to describe things like observations, decisions, or reports that are based on an unbiased analysis." https://www.dictionary.com/e/subjective-vs-objective/ I'm not sure why you quoted it, but "Reality has a well-known liberal bias" is a joke you…

By the way, not knowing the history of the reality thing I looked it up - it came from a Colbert joke about W Bush's popularity https://youtu.be/UwLjK9LFpeo

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The Guardian is a newspaper with a long-proclaimed left-wing bias. Musk has claimed that X is politically neutral.

Musk claims a lot of things. Amplifying right wing propaganda and conspiracy theories, often from his own twitter account, is not politically neutral.

Exactly, that's my point. The Guardian makes no claims to be politically neutral.

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Yes, they are a UK publication. But they cover a lot of US news and have a significant American readership. So, like American newspapers, they have an informed opinion and an audience that wishes to hear that opinion. That's how newspaper endorsements work. In this case the writer of the endorsement cannot themselves vote, but their opinion can still have weight. The Economist, another UK-based periodical with a more…

At least here in America, endorsement of foreign politicians is seen as election interference, and generally not done.

Newspapers don't generally do it, but I've never seen it as a matter of avoiding interference. Rather, it's just that we simply don't have much interest one way or the other in most elections. The newspapers don't spend a lot of time covering them and would not consider themselves sufficiently knowledgeable to make an endorsement.

The American election is special, in that it's the "leader of the free world". What we do here affects everybody, in a way that even the leadership of Germany, France, and England doesn't. Perhaps we'd have an opinion about the leadership in Russia or China, but they don't have free elections.

The government should probably refrain from making an endorsement, but if people can't figure out the distinction between a government and a newspaper, that's their own lookout.

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Hey remember this? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41662702 Fun times

'Freedom of speech', in this context, should be read as 'stuff Musk likes'.

The above example was a case of their rules against doxing - publishing JD Vances address and phone number, which is applied pretty evenly to all doxing.

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Hey remember this? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41662702 Fun times

I don't even know why they bother with that kind of research. It's obvious that Trump can just lie and all his supporters believe it because they have a propaganda arm that's perceived as "news". The Trump believers all think that "MSM" is lying to them but for some reason they think that Fox and NewsMax and Alex Jones aren't (when the exact opposite is true). It's like the whole hush money thing. Turns out it just d…

The Michael Moore Human Molotov Cocktail speech explains a lot https://youtu.be/TEHekdQSiXg

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“All the people flocking to Bluesky — were you outraged at the Covid censorship and Hunter Biden laptop election interference in October 2020?”

And the same gaslighting was echoed here on HN as well, don’t hold your breath for any such acknowledgement though.

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Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter. The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate. The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris. This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

Very disappointing to see that overt bias from Yann LeCun. Makes me wonder how much Meta and Llama can be trusted on AI.

Dunno - X/Twitter, at least at the leadership level, has switched from neutral to MAGA. I find it quite reasonable for him to want to move somewhere more neutral.
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