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Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by NoGravitas »

soganess wrote: post #119
quantified wrote: post #75

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Without most of what makes the internet useful, sadly.

I'm not sure I like your parent's idea, but it isn't like the regular internet would go away... when you want useful, go there. I wouldn't mind a modern take on geocities sorta system. Where: (1) You can make a webpage that could be about whatever the bleep you wanted it to be about. (2) Only allowed a reduced subset of web technologies. (3) That was free from any advertising or commerce/sales. (4) Was only available…

I'm already treating the WWW and the commercial internet generally as "Babylon". You have to use it for a lot of stuff (doing commerce, interacting with the government), but why would you willingly use it on your own time?

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by alkonaut »

headsupernova wrote: post #133
alkonaut wrote: post #89

Make a search engine that doesn’t have AI result except when I specifically ask for it, or you soon won’t have a search engine business. A really quick fix is to search with “-ai” and that Google doesn’t do this implicitly for images is really strange.

How do you expect them to implement that?

Well so far it works to just add ”-ai” so it feels like a pretty easy addition

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Post by NBJack »

rootusrootus wrote: post #77
CSMastermind wrote: post #57

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It really is a werid feeling remembering the internet of my youth and even my 20s and knowing that it will never exist again.

I'm a little sad for anyone who didn't get to experience the Internet of the twentieth century. It was a unique point in time. I'm ready to pay for a walled garden where the incentives are aligned towards me, instead of against me. I know that puts me in a minority, but I'm tired of the advertising 'net.

> I'm a little sad for anyone who didn't get to experience the Internet of the twentieth century. It was a unique point in time.

I did, and...well, let's be careful how we look back at it.

Punch the monkey? Ad supported 'free' internet that literally put an adbar at the top of your browser at all times? Dreadfully slow loads of someone's animated construction sign GIF? Waiting for dial up to connect after 20 tries? Tracking super pixels? Java web applets? Flash? Watching your favorite ISP implode or get bought up? To say nothing of the pre-Google search results (I miss the categories though).

I have plenty of good memories from those days, but it still had plenty of problems. And it wasn't exactly a bastion of research material either unless you really went digging or paid for access.

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Post by NBJack »

lenkite wrote: post #292
dcchambers wrote: post #233

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With every passing day I basically think this is going to be the future of the internet. Many disparate private/semi-private groups while the "public" internet becomes overloaded with AI slop. It's largely already happening in places like Discord. I think the first company that can capture what Discord has but is not wrapped in that "gamer aesthetic" ui/ux is going to do really well.

Discord could probably become the new internet if they introduced a URN scheme and permitted folks to host web pages.

Discord is becoming a bloated slop fest. It has literally been implicated at times for bad gaming performance [1]. Remember when it used to just be a chat app? And don't get me started on its "quests" system, which may burst your ideal internet bubble. [2]

[1] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/discord-throttles-nvidia-g...

[2] https://www.thestreet.com/technology/discord-is-making-a-maj...

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Post by majani »

chongli wrote: post #80
rightbyte wrote: post #59

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> This growth of the dead internet It is quite surreal to witness. It is certainly fueled by the commercialization of internet due to ads and centralization to user hostile platforms. The old internet seems to be doing much better. But it lost most of its users in the last 15 years...

The old internet seems to be doing much better. But it lost most of its users in the last 15 years.. What do you mean by this? How do you find the old internet?

You're on it right now. HN is a very old site with old users and old mods that links to other old sites

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Post by arp242 »

consteval wrote: post #308
arp242 wrote: post #249

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But I can generate something with AI and then sign it myself and say "I wrote it, pinky promise". Since most people don't write anything on the internet, I can pay people $5 to use their signature and operate a "sign farm". Look at the effort these people go though to send their spam.

You can fix this at a hardware level with Cameras. This will, at least, save the most harmful kind of lying. Where real-looking photos and videos are used to defame real people.

I'm not really sure if I follow your suggestion; what would be done with the camera? Authenticate that a picture is real? I'm not sure how that will be workable? For example, how would I (random internet person) verify a picture from you (also random internet person) is real?

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Post by ultimafan »

AlexandrB wrote: post #202
ssl-3 wrote: post #178

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That's not the same Internet. Patreon, forums, Discord, Facebook, Instagram and so on are all centralized. With the Internet of the 90s, discussion happened with decentralized Usenet (owned by nobody) with more-focused discussion happening on mailing lists (literally owned by whoever was smart enough to get Majordomo compiled and running). Email was handled by individual ISPs or other orgs instead of funneled through…

> Multiplayer games were self-hosted without a central corpo authority. Losing "dedicated servers" was a huge loss in my opinion. It was fun to play on the same handful of servers and get to know the same group of people. Dedicated servers were also free from profit-driven "matchmaking" schemes since you ended up playing with whoever was on at the time. I also miss the chaotic multiplayer of the era, where the priori…

It's crazy to me that custom sprays existed at all in any capacity for so long. They were novel and sometimes funny but man, I really don't miss the days at all of playing a game and having your roommate/family ask why your computer screen is plastered with goatse or meatspin or the like. I remember more than a handful of awkward conversations trying to explain WHY that wasn't actually part of the game itself.
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