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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by cyanydeez » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 10:01 PM UTC

jazzyjackson wrote: post #217

drewrv wrote: post #164

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From using various VR systems, a hololens, and reading reviews of the vision pro I really feel like hand gestures are a bad way to interact with AR systems. They might work in a pinch (heh) but some sort of small controller that can act as a pointer and has a button or two is superior in every way. It's interesting that meta went through the effort of bundling an accessory but stuck with hand gestures anyway.

I agree, and I also think that walking around to items positioned statically in space is a really dumb way to do embodied computing. I mean if an app is associated with your kitchen fridge or whatever fine, pin it to your kitchen fridge, but if I'm going to be enveloped in an omnidirectional high def display, I want a way to bring the windows to me , not have to move my body to different windows. Anyway, Logitech mad…

Most of these products arnted aimed at consumers, but industrial tech. While the critque is great for enthusiasts, it makes no sense for what this type of industrial use will occur.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by impulser_ » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 10:02 PM UTC

Twirrim wrote: post #12

I know it's a prototype, but yikes those are large and goofy looking. Reminds me of the old 80's NHS glasses in the UK (which you could get for free if you couldn't afford otherwise). Or for those of you old enough, Brains from the old Supermarionation versions of the Thunderbird show ( https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article8451975.ec... )

This is common with everything new tech. The first laptops, the first phones, the first iPhone, the first iPod and so on started out large.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by andrewmcwatters » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 10:04 PM UTC

Oh man. I know they have a partnership with Ray-Ban, but Gentle Monster's design language would have really made these work at a consumer level.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by wewtyflakes » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 10:05 PM UTC

baby wrote: post #305

wewtyflakes wrote: post #171

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As someone who does not wear these things; it is not fine.

heh, it's 2024

I don't think that makes a difference. I realize since you wear these things it is in your interest to make it seem like that people caring about privacy is living in past, but it really is creepy and if I saw someone wearing these in public I would not be thinking the world of them. YMMV.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by noneeeed » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 10:06 PM UTC

largest_hippo wrote: post #10

This is the form factor that I always wanted from HoloLens (which I own). The release is very light on details of field of view and resolution (other than "best ever" puffery), that's where we'll get a better sense of actual use cases. The ball game shown looked very rudimentary in terms of only taking place in a small directly-in-front-of-user sense. This is also where HoloLens games fell flat -- you'd turn your hea…

What do/did you use your Hololens for?

I tried out the first gen version at a meetup and it was really nifty (the latency was fantastic), but I just couldn't work out what anyone would use it for in real life, it seemed too limited to be useful.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by Aeolun » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 10:06 PM UTC

If feels like every builder of AR glasses falls into the same hole. At some point, after they make them smaller and better looking than the ones before it, they think “this is enough”.

It is not enough.

While a large improvement, those are some chunky looking glasses that I do not imagine anyone wants on their face.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by peppertree » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 10:08 PM UTC

Missed opportunity to name it Milhouse.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by martpie » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 10:11 PM UTC

Aeolun wrote: post #316

If feels like every builder of AR glasses falls into the same hole. At some point, after they make them smaller and better looking than the ones before it, they think “this is enough”. It is not enough. While a large improvement, those are some chunky looking glasses that I do not imagine anyone wants on their face.

That is exactly what Meta acknowledged, and this is not a product that is going to be released to the public anyway.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by packetlost » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 10:12 PM UTC

Am I the only one that wants AR to effectively be an extension of my phone? Like, give me video game HUDs with handoff from a handheld similar to CarPlay/Android Auto, please.

The killer feature of AR is that it can be omnipresent in your FOV, which enables a whole class of apps that just otherwise aren't possible.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by diyftw » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 10:12 PM UTC

JoshTriplett wrote: post #126

Yet another nice piece of hardware hampered by attempting to lock people into a proprietary ecosystem. (And an AI-centric one at that.) I would love to have a set of AR glasses. I would love to have a wide variety of features that they could enable. I'd like them to be at least as open as an Android phone is, or as open as a 2D monitor is. Standard ports / standard wireless interfaces. Install your own software, not…

I wish I was surprised that you're getting downvoted for, quite literally, asking for open standards in new tech. I would have thought HACKER news would be more receptive when, on the first page, there are stories about having trouble getting young people to maintain open source projects and linux distros.