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Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon
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#312Intelligence agencies put their bugs within the hardware of electronic devices you order online. If you believe being the target of an intelligence agency never order anything online. They will put the bug inside, especially if it is an electronic device such as a phone/laptop/TV/coffee machine. Best solution is to go buy it from a random store and have a good home security system. Also weigh your electronic devices…
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#313If we try to do what we are best at here at HN, let’s focus the discussion on the technical aspects of it. It immediately reminded me of Stuxnet, which also from a technical perspective was quite interesting. I already wonder if this was anything that was planted in the devices perviously, or if the ones responsible had similar devices, and managed reverse engineer them and craft a payload to them, that could be sent…
I find it extremely unlikely that this was done with the native capabilities and equipment in the devices. It would be extremely interesting if it were. A far simpler explanation would be explosives implanted en-route.
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#3148 year old girl was dead there, not only hezbollah members uses it, hospitals uses it too
If it's a child sitting on the lap with her father, and her father is related to Hezbollah (and as such carrying a pager), this stuff could happen, I think. All in all horrible to be honest ...
Apparently a message was sent to the pagers right before exploding. I saw in a couple videos where the victim looked down at their hip and angled it to see the screen. It makes sense as a trick to ensure the target is close by when it goes off, but a kid could just as easily pick it up off a table after hearing it buzz.
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#315This seems like it would have the potential for a lot of collateral damage due to the possibility that modified pagers might enter general distribution. That is to say, how do they insure that a given shipment of pagers are only going to Hezbollah as opposed to some of them going to people like aid workers?
They killed an 8 year old girl with this attack. I'm sure there was already a huge amount of collateral damage from 2000+ eyes-off-taret explosions.
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#317If we try to do what we are best at here at HN, let’s focus the discussion on the technical aspects of it. It immediately reminded me of Stuxnet, which also from a technical perspective was quite interesting. I already wonder if this was anything that was planted in the devices perviously, or if the ones responsible had similar devices, and managed reverse engineer them and craft a payload to them, that could be sent…
Shaped charge hidden in the battery casing. Sounds like batteries heated up which is consistent with one method that shaped charges could be detonated. No extra wires needed going into the battery (better concealment).
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#318If we try to do what we are best at here at HN, let’s focus the discussion on the technical aspects of it. It immediately reminded me of Stuxnet, which also from a technical perspective was quite interesting. I already wonder if this was anything that was planted in the devices perviously, or if the ones responsible had similar devices, and managed reverse engineer them and craft a payload to them, that could be sent…
> If we try to do what we are best at here at HN, let’s focus the discussion on the technical aspects of it. Technical? Yes it's interesting but you are missing the biggest part here: how do you convince such a huge organization to switch so many devices? This human engineering is the really interesting part here.
Hezbollah has said some time ago they were switching to pagers because Israel can get inside their cell phones.
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#319This seems like it would have the potential for a lot of collateral damage due to the possibility that modified pagers might enter general distribution. That is to say, how do they insure that a given shipment of pagers are only going to Hezbollah as opposed to some of them going to people like aid workers?
These are pagers connected to Hizbollah's internal communication network. Why would they be used by the general population?
Hezbollah is essentially a governmental organization, they provide healthcare, education, agricultural infrastructure, social services, etc...
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#320someone in the US government is probably freaking out about all these iphones and macbooks made in china right now.