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C# is IMHO still better language than Go. Refactoring tooling is unmatched.
If with C# you can create a fully static binary which runs on an empty scratch docker, I will properly consider your opinion. Until then: Go à gogo!
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Ever heard of Rotor? https://www.codeguru.com/dotnet/net-nuts-bolts-the-joy-of-ro... Or DotGNU? https://www.gnu.org/software/dotgnu/ What happened to Xamarin looks like Microsoft took whatever IP was relevant, and left everything else go, which this decision is a confirmation thereof. It is kind of interesting to see Miguel's feedback, now that he his allowed to talk about how things went down.
Where is this feedback you’re referring to?
What is Miguel de Icaza up to these days? I saw on Wikipedia that he left MS in 2022 to take some time off, but surely he's working on something now? (if you respond, please, lets not get into his politics; HN is not the right place to have that kind of discussion)
He is making terminal emulators for iOS, iPadOS, and VisionOS and loving Swift these days.
I worked on Mono a lot back in the early 2000s (back in the SVN days before it moved to Git, even). This move makes a lot of sense. Things evolved a lot over the years. Mono's legacy goals, which are to be a portable CLR (.NET) runtime for platforms that Microsoft didn't care about, don't make much sense today. Mono made a lot of sense for running places where full .NET didn't, like in full AOT environments like on t…
Does the wine project have the resources and knowledge to maintain it?
Or is it just so that microsoft can say they aren't the ones discontinuing it?
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Is there a way to build a GUI app with .NET on Linux? Will it be cross-platform?
There was also a GTK package for Xamarin Forms which I've used https://github.com/xamarin/Xamarin.Forms/pkgs/nuget/Xamarin.... BUT That's now officially unsupported as all of Xamarin Forms is no longer supported and the MAUI replacement doesn't cover Linux nor does that look likely (MAUI is mired deep in problems due over-ambition, failure to resource and it seems a significant push in MS to use MAUI Hybrid aka web U…
It is like the Web folks, that don't get anything else, are now pushing where .NET goes, mostly since .NET is now under Azure org chart.
I have done Web and native since "forever", not everything has to be for everything.
I always assumed Microsoft did not condone Wine or other re-implementations of their APIs (like ReactOS), but that they were protected by DMCA reverse engineering provisions and anyway too insignificant to send the legal team after. Wikipedia says, > Until 2020, Microsoft had not made any public statements about Wine. ... On 16 February 2005, Ivan Leo Puoti discovered that Microsoft had started checking the Windows R…
Microsoft in 2024 feels like a different beast. All the MS devs I know seem fully on board with totally cross-platform support. Half of them are coding on MacBooks and I would hazard a guess that a good proportion of .NET web sites being built are being deployed onto Linux boxen.
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Won't most apps use way more .net stuff than core? Mono was a way to run dotnet apps on Linux, killing it meant killing cross platform support for modern dotnet desktop apps?
Not really. Best to think of .net “core” as just .net. Anything that was in the old .net that isn’t in core today won’t ever be. Then there’s stuff that was missing in the earlier versions of core that existed in old dotnet. Some of it they later realised was useful for newer apps or apps migrated to core. These pieces were ported over by Microsoft or replaced by 3rd party implementations (e.g. avalonia for xplat ui)…
I'm genuinely curious, for someone who develops web application backends and larger distributed systems & infrastructure, predominantly using Go and Python, exclusively targeting Linux, is there anything in the .NET ecosystem that anyone would recommend I take a look at? Many thanks.
Why .NET > Go in my opinion? - performance-wise the gap is not big and probably even .NET can be quicker - development time can be reduced, tooling is great for .NET and even funny-not-funny error handling is cleaner - still much easier to find people in .NET than Go where I live and work
Now it's time to verify those assumptions - I'm going to implement next real project in .NET and see how it went. Hobby or "trials" in .NET resulted in fun and speed, but it often happens on first date :)
I'm genuinely curious, for someone who develops web application backends and larger distributed systems & infrastructure, predominantly using Go and Python, exclusively targeting Linux, is there anything in the .NET ecosystem that anyone would recommend I take a look at? Many thanks.
Binaries will be huge tho compared to Go. I’ve a few CLIs that I that I my customers need to use, I’m planning to rewrite them in Go for this reason.