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New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

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Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

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Post by masklinn »

cmsj wrote: post #305
tl wrote: post #302

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>While that is historically true, it's not really the case for the new MBP: the 16GB RAM update costs $200, 2x8GB sticks cost ~150 at crucial. Meh. 2x8GB is ~$150. 2x4GB is ~$50[1]. Apple is charging $200 for a $100 bump in component costs. 100% markup is excessive. [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233...

Note that while their margin on RAM is high, ther average margin across all products is, afair, over 40% We nerds need to accept that we ate not apple's focus anymore. Just spec your machine high, pony up lots of money, enjoy the shit out of it.

> We nerds need to accept that we ate not apple's focus anymore.

Anymore? It's never been Apple's focus

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Post by masklinn »

pooriaazimi wrote: post #280
wlesieutre wrote: post #270

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If you're within warranty. If it's more than a year old (or three if you buy AppleCare), then you're on the hook for a whole new motherboard instead of a commodity stick of RAM.

Not necessarily. A colleague of friend of mine's son (!) in Canada had a 2 year, 11 months old MacBook Pro (before unibody). He didn't have an AppleCare or anything, nor the idiot used Time Machine. He spilled wine all over his MBP and it died. He brought it to an Apple store and told them that he knows he's an idiot, and his warranty is long due, and would be happy to pay if they could just restore his hard drive fo…

> This is not what always happens, but Apple is rich, and they know if they treat their customers well, they'll be customers again

Yes, pretty much. And "genius" have a lot of leeway in their handling of people coming in. They generally seem expected to try and make customers happy as much as they can, and I regularly see comments about completely unreasonable replacements allowed by apple stores.

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Post by drivingmenuts »

pearle wrote: post #179
drivingmenuts wrote: post #151

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In the part of my job where I'm an IT Manager, I can tell you I've had one user go thru three motherboards. In a year. Without spilling anything on them or otherwise mistreating the computer. I'm, like, a slobbery fanboi and I can tell you, occasionally, Apple makes one that's rotten.

This happened to me with my last MBP. Three motherboards and four batteries within a 3 year period. The case also cracked near the screen. I've since switched to another laptop manufacturer.

Does it run OS X?

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Post by omgsean »

whateverer wrote: post #303
omgsean wrote: post #290

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It won't even matter by then because the Illuminati will have already started the New World Order and we'll all be in secret FEMA camps.

"Most users never program their computers themselves. Anyone can plainly see the historical trend from the late 80s onward that the average user has no interest in the internals of their computers or in investing time in automation which experts can do for them. I support Apple 100% in moving forward and removing the option of running, or producing, unreliable homebrewed code without authorization. Actual programming…

I don't think Apple would be so quick to throw away the hacker market like that. Do you think they don't know that their computers are incredibly popular for sysadmins, web developers, and other developers who aren't necessarily writing Cocoa apps?

If I'm wrong I'll eat my hat. AND I'll switch to Linux.

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Post by rquantz »

its_so_on wrote: post #80
rquantz wrote: post #57

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"All-new" in advertising is so overused as to be meaningless. It would make 25% of those eight words into white noise.

um, next to a picture like that it makes you pay attention to what's new about it.

The only people who are going to be able to tell the difference between that picture and any other Mac from the last few years are people who don't need the tagline to tell them that it's all new, since they're going to be looking at the specs.

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Post by trimbo »

stouset wrote: post #292
trimbo wrote: post #264

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> I'm over 2 years in on my 2010 MacBook Pro, and checking the battery right now I see its designed capacity was 6,000mAh while its current, fully-charged capacity is… 5,786mAh. I don't know what the capacity is on mine, but I used to get about 5 hours on battery, now I'm lucky to get 2.5 hours. Mine is same model, 18 months old.

In case you're curious (I am!), iStat Menus can show you the breakdown with its battery monitor module. Keep in mind that the reduction in battery life might also just be that you have more intensive apps running, more things happening in the background, brighter monitor, etc. I also feel intuitively like the battery life in my MBP has dropped, but seeing the numbers, I'm pretty convinced it's a change in my usage mo…

Ok I installed iStat Menu and spent all night charging this thing for you.

Currently @ 100% charge: designed: 6900mAh, current capacity: 6268 mAh

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Post by pearle »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #313
pearle wrote: post #179

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This happened to me with my last MBP. Three motherboards and four batteries within a 3 year period. The case also cracked near the screen. I've since switched to another laptop manufacturer.

Does it run OS X?

No, Ubuntu 12.04 & Windows 8 Preview

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Post by _b8r0 »

taligent wrote: post #77
_b8r0 wrote: post #25

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I have the late 2011 MBP with 16gb of RAM and I maxed out RAM usage earlier today just with Postbox, Steam, a backgrounded 2Gb VM, a large file copy in forklift and chrome. While that's a rare occurence now, I imagine that over time it will become more common.

I don't think you understand how RAM works. Hint: there is lots of caching goes on.

I don't think you understand how my laptop use case works. Hint: I run a lot of VMs and emulators, do a lot of debugging and have a lot of tabs open.

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Post by AlisdairO »

masklinn wrote: post #274
AlisdairO wrote: post #145

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I suspect that that he's talking more about the update to the 3G that rendered the phone almost unusably slow for a substantial proportion of users. Unfortunately they never did bother to fix it.

> Unfortunately they never did bother to fix it. As a former owner of a 3G, they did (attempt) with iOS 4.2.1, which significantly improved the situation over the absolutely dreadful 4.0 and 4.1 series. It wasn't back to 3.2 levels by any means (there's only so much you can do when the phone had barely 30MB of RAM headroom when released — and yes, I think AAPL are stingy fuckers on their RAM, the original iPad looks…

Yeah, I probably overstated my case - I think some people did find their situation rather improved. My wife's 3G never got any better, unfortunately :-/.

What really annoyed me with the situation was that they didn't release a good way (afaik) to downgrade your OS back if you didn't have a good backup. I expect that from a commodity manufacturer, but given Apple's premium reputation I tend to expect a quality response when they screw up.

That said, I still buy their stuff, so maybe that's why they don't care ;)

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