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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Political parties aren’t democratic institutions. They are essentially private organizations who can operate however they want. It’s only been the last 50 years or so that either party has used primaries as anything more than a straw poll

The DNC and RNC are legally bound to follow rules established both by state law and by Congress/legislation. Yes they are private institutions but they can not set arbitrary rules.

When it comes to their primaries, the only obligation that they have to is to follow their own rules, and the only people that are allowed to hold them to that obligation are they themselves, and maybe their vendors.

They aren't even obligated to donors who donated under the assumption that there's some promise or legal requirement that their primaries be fair. That case was dismissed, and resulted in the quote from DNC lawyer Bruce Spiva:

"You know, again, if you had a charity where somebody said, Hey, I’m gonna take this money and use it for a specific purpose, X, and they pocketed it and stole the money, of course that’s different. But here, where you have a party that’s saying, We’re gonna, you know, choose our standard bearer, and we’re gonna follow these general rules of the road, which we are voluntarily deciding, we could have — and we could have voluntarily decided that, Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way. That’s not the way it was done. But they could have. And that would have also been their right, and it would drag the Court well into party politics, internal party politics to answer those questions."

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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The large majority of voters wanted him to step down after the debate according to every poll. This is not a decision that goes against the spirit of democracy. To the contrary, sacrificing personal power for the good of the country and the preservation of the ideal that the institution matters rather than the figurehead. It's something we've almost forgotten is possible in the modern age of personality cults and wan…

> according to every poll Polls are now substitutes for voting booths?

Do British citizens get to vote on who each parliament party puts forward as their leader?

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Moderators unflagging this makes a lot of sense. I felt the threads about the assassination attempt a week ago deserved similar treatment for the historical relevance. Whatever is done here should be done with a consistent set of principles applied to both parties.

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There was a thread about the Trump assassination attempt, it was unflagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40957564

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You behave as though you’re in the race right up to the moment you are not.

It's bizarre people don't get this. What's he supposed to do, tweet "thinking about not running" and flip everybody out?

That would be such an Elon Musk thing to do. No fucks given. ;)

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Seems totally reasonable: I am confident in my ability to do this job now, but I'm less sure I'll be able to do it three or four years from now, so I will be seeing out this contract and won't sign a new one with you. A perfectly normal thing most working people do in their 60s.

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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> It’s a miracle, folks. Donald told the truth for once. It’s the most important election of our lifetimes. And I will win it. Curiously, his tweet from just 18 hours ago seemed like he was still in the race. I wonder what changed.

They hadn't told the people running his Twitter account yet?

There was already an incident [1] where his press secretary tweeted about running for president on her own account, so she or her people are presumably in charge of it.

1. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

Not according to Marc Andreessen & Ben Horowitz [1], Chamath Palihapitiya & David Sacks [2], possibly Zuckerberg [3], and others. And of course Elon, Thiel. Many such cases.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_sNclEgQZQ

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blqIZGXWUpU

[3] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XgWFwVRGcf4

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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> It seems super late in the game but okay. Why does the US in specific have such drawn-out campaigns? Earlier this week, I saw a pundit commenting that 4 months before the election is too short notice to pick a new candidate. But there's countries in Europe that announce elections, pick candidates, do the campaigns, go to the pools, do the counts, and have the electees take office, all in less than 4 months (see e.g…

Because elections here aren't "announced". They're on a fixed 4-year schedule. Everyone knows they're coming, and if they start just a little sooner than the other guy this time, that may give them an advantage. Over time, it creeps earlier and earlier. Like retail stores putting out Christmas stuff in mid-october. Obviously, in great Britain's recent election, nobody knew there was going to be an election until it w…

The fixed schedule is the case for most EU countries, in Belgium every 4 year we go out and vote.

The only possible way to vote earlier is when a government falls and they write out new elections but that is extremely rare.

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