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Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Post by fsflover »

greenyies wrote: post #305
fsflover wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're really this serious about security, you should be using Qubes OS. Then, a browser choice stops being important, since the strong isolation would prevent an exploit to do any damage. And disposable VMs allow to do insecure staff without any risk.

I'm serious enough about security that I don't trust a very small dev teams skill set developing a browser for the Internet we have today.

And I don't care if my browser is compromised, since the attacker would only get access to an empty VM on Qubes OS.

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Post by dang »

bArray wrote: post #3

Discussed previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40845951 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40845954

Thanks! Macroexpanded:

Welcome to Ladybird - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40845951 - July 2024 (94 comments)

The Ladybird Browser Initiative - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40845954 - July 2024 (13 comments)

Ladybird browser update (June 2024) [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40838973 - June 2024 (1 comment)

Ladybird browser spreads its wings - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40746804 - June 2024 (304 comments)

Ladybird browser update (March 2024) [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39889576 - April 2024 (2 comments)

Understanding Complexity Like an Engineer – The Case of the Ladybird Browser - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39342887 - Feb 2024 (55 comments)

The Ladybird browser project - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39271449 - Feb 2024 (284 comments)

Ladybird browser update (July 2023) [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36939402 - July 2023 (1 comment)

Chat with Andreas Kling about Ladybird and developing a browser engine - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36620450 - July 2023 (65 comments)

Shopify Sponsored Ladybird Browser - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36502583 - June 2023 (1 comment)

I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36377805 - June 2023 (166 comments)

Early stages of Google Docs support in the Ladybird browser - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33511831 - Nov 2022 (84 comments)

Github.com on Ladybird, new browser with JavaScript/CSS/SVG engines from scratch - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33273785 - Oct 2022 (1 comment)

Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32809126 - Sept 2022 (473 comments)

Ladybird: A truly new Web Browser comes to Linux - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32014061 - July 2022 (8 comments)

Ladybird Web Browser - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31987506 - July 2022 (2 comments)

Ladybird Web Browser – SerenityOS LibWeb Engine on Linux - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31976579 - July 2022 (2 comments)

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Post by cabalamat »

awesomekling wrote: post #132
dataflow wrote: post #112

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> There are currently no plans to switch to a less permissive license. Hey, just a reality check: in the event that you actually do become wildly successful, this means that others (Google, Microsoft, etc.) will be able to fork the browser and then develop it faster than you - thus leaving you behind and taking away your users ! Would highly recommend leaving yourself some mechanism to prevent that, unless you're rea…

Yes, we are aware of how permissive licenses work. If someone forks our code and does a better job with it than we do, fair game. :)

But if they embrace, extend and extinguish, in a way that harms your users' freedom, that would not IMO be a good outcome.

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Post by klohto »

awesomekling wrote: post #5

Hello friends, Ladybird founder here! Here's a short video from Chris Wanstrath announcing our non-profit yesterday, and kicking things off with a $1M donation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9edTqPMX_k Happy to answer questions :)

is there still space on your crew? i’d love to join, should i just start committing?

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Post by greenyies »

fsflover wrote: post #311
greenyies wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm serious enough about security that I don't trust a very small dev teams skill set developing a browser for the Internet we have today.

And I don't care if my browser is compromised, since the attacker would only get access to an empty VM on Qubes OS.

I'm not switching my os to some obscure one for security and it doesn't make sense for me to isolate my browser from my system/files.

And yes my mail account is more critical than my local files.

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Post by spankalee »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #194
awesomekling wrote: post #93

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I can't speak for Servo, but my understanding is that they have very different goals than we do. Servo wants to build an embeddable engine for controlled sets of HTML/CSS/JS content, with a focus on modularity and parallelism. Ladybird wants to build a usable browser for the open web, warts and all, with a focus on compatibility and correctness. I'm a big fan of Servo and I hope they become a huge success! Competitio…

> Servo wants to build an embeddable engine That’s what they pivoted to after being expelled from Mozilla, but that wasn’t the original goal, was it? It’s the safer(?) one they turned to when the job security evaporated. (Not sure if that changes anything, just feel obligated to point out the retcon here.)

It would be very cool if Servo were picked up as the engine for a new browser.
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