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Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

As one of the beta testers, let me just say that I really like this device. It's very different than a kindle, kobo or reMarkable in that the refresh rate really makes a big difference. When I show this device to people, I show them how quickly zooming in on a PDF is. It's way faster and more responsive than any e-ink screen and it's way less addicting than the typical laptop, phone or tablet. I'm attempting to make…

I was playing at an outdoor concert recently - last year I suffered from the combination of paper sheet music + wind.. so this year I used an Android tablet in portrait mode where I could flicker to the next one relatively easily with a finger (no fancy bluetooth pedal control or anything). Me, wind: 1-0. This particular tablet was actually visible in full daylight when I turned the screen light to its maximum.

After this I've been thinking how nice a Kindle-style display would be (not to mention battery), the more sunlight the better, kind of. A Kindle is too small, and well.. I know there are others (that Remarkable someone mentioned), but..

What about this Daylight one? Overkill maybe?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

#313

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

I like my rm2, but 2 of my biggest issues are:

- Syncing changes I make to PDFs to Google drive is tedious

- For some reason there's a restriction of color when drawing on the PDF. Even if The tablet is black and white which is fine, I want to be able to select a wide range of colors since ultimately I'll want to be able to view the PDFs on a legit RGB computer.

What does this workflow look like on Daylight?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

#314

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Is it possible for end users to deploy their own operating systems and software?

And do you make it easy for them to do so?

One of my pet peeves about the Android ecosystem is Google's abusive licensing restrictions for their extended service stack prohibiting vendors from distributing their own forks of the base software.

This is the sort of device that I'd be interested in from the hardware perspective, but would not even consider if it's not possible to strip every last remnant of Google from it.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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> We developed our own custom epaper display tech we call LivePaper. We focused on solving the tradeoffs RLCDs traditionally have - around reflectance %, metallic-look / not Paperlike enough, viewing angle, white state, rainbow mura, parallax, resolution, size, lack of quality backlight, etc. Would you license this to others at a more affordable rate than e-ink? Lenovo has some e-ink 2-in-1 "thinkbook" laptops and mi…

I bet people would pay good money for a Framework display module that's usable eInk. (Assuming it can use the same display connector.) https://frame.work/products/display-kit?v=FRANGX0001 https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Display+Replacement+Guide/86...

I'd buy a framework laptop just for that.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Big reMarkable 2 fan here, and it's very intriguing to see some competition to traditional eInk! Coming from the rM2, my immediate concerns are display density, and impact of the light on writing feel (both reMarkable and Ratta claim that feel suffers with the extra space between the pen tip and display). Also as someone who makes a lot of pdf-based tools for the reMarkable, I'd love to see a video or details about t…

1) remarkable & ratta are traditional off the shelf eink and have to use a frontlight (above the display) which has many tradeoffs 2) daylight actually uses microperforations in our LivePaper display, so we're able to use a backlight, which in our opinion is superior in multiple ways one of which, is what you're describing! our backlight doesnt affect writing feel or distance from pen tip to display! (also way better…

Ratta (SuperNote) does not have front light. At least the A6X that I have. I don't think that the new version (Nomad) has a front light either.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Some more questions about software support. It seems the device is using android. Do you have any plan to support mainline linux kernel? It could allow the possibility to use native linux distro like PostmarketOS ( https://postmarketos.org/ ) for device longevity. Your team could also benefit from delegating some softare support effort to linux kernel team.

we're open to it! we just need to better understand what resources we need internally to support this effort and for the specific mediatek/qualcomm chips we're looking at

What specific mediatek/qaulcom chips are you looking at? It says you've already shipped two batches, so I assume that's been decided?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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This looks really neat and I’d love to see if it becomes a viable replacement for rM2. For now it reminded me that I can set my OLED iPad to monochrome (via Accessibility > Display > Color Filters and crank up Night Shift). I just added shortcuts to my dock to toggle between these modes. Now I have the best of all worlds.. Typing this from my Magic Keyboard at 120fps 264ppi in warm monochrome. I do wish I could get a…

Thanks for the inspiration. Works on android 14, too, under accessibility options -> color correction, and you can set a two finger swipe up gesture to switch between the modes.

I'm usually in black and white. Can also get the accessibility icon to permanently show up in the bottom right corner of the bottom bar.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

#320

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

I was about to write the same comment but you expressed it much better. I would also be happy if it could be both an android tablet but have a monitor mode where it just becomes a monitor.
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