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Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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Post by epakai »

scarface_74 wrote: post #269
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #260

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It's silly to act like every online context has a real world analogue. But no, I don't vandalize it. Whatever you consider the real world equivalent of deleting my comments after the place has enshittified itself, that's what I do.

There is a difference between deleting a comment and purposefully posting meaningless junk.

Deleting is easy to restore. There have been cases where reddit restored deleted posts. Edits are a bit harder to filter for so they probably won't bother.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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Post by swed420 »

Dwedit wrote: post #265
ktosobcy wrote: post #71

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Unfortunatelly it won't work/happen... even after huge protest and backlash reddit is still strong and go-to-place :-(

The protest was done in the worst possible way. You don't PRIVATE the subreddits. You keep them visible, lock out new posts, and direct visitors to a successor website to continue the discussion.

Some communities did exactly that. Jellyfin is one example.

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Post by Antrikshy »

kogir wrote: post #21

Everything works fine via iCloud private relay. No account or other mitigations required. So perhaps it’s not VPNs that are blocked and instead the traffic you’re sharing an IP with.

Are you logged in? They’re only blocking suspicious bot like traffic on VPN. Logged in accounts can still use it over VPN.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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Post by smokel »

_8j50 wrote: post #262
smokel wrote: post #229

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The alternative is to simply not use it. Read books, hang out with friends, do some tinkering. Free thinking is perfectly well possible without Reddit, in our very society. Unless you have some really weird thoughts? Rubbing these thoughts in other peoples faces may not be viable, but it has never been, as far as I recall. And I'm glad for it.

Most communication happens on the internet these days. But also, my whole point is the "friends" bubble is increasingly getting smaller and tribal. We don't interact with strangers because our communication platforms optimize and moderate them away. How can democracy work if you can't talk to and convince fellow citizens on various controversial topics? Even on HN, I was doing fine until I started commenting on polit…

A lot of communication happens online, but that doesn't make it great. Most communication online is unidirectional, dishonest, or plain wrong.

Before the internet, there was television (the drug of a nation...). I fail to see how social media actually improves communication. By all means it seems to spread disinformation faster, but it does not seem to lead to constructive thought. Even here on Hacker News, discussions can last only up to a day typically.

I personally don't care for all this to go away. We didn't win much by it, we won't lose much.

You wouldn't have had a big "friends bubble" in the 1990s, you may have had the illusion of having a big one in the early 2020s. Democracy is not built on that illusion.

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

euazOn wrote: post #268
GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #235

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Telegram has much better info, Reddit's is usually a few hours or days old

I dont always necessarily need or want the latest info. I find Reddit to be a good aggregator/filter that also acts as one of the walls against disinfo, i.e. some of the content never gets posted, or gets immediately debunked. /r/credibledefense is my go-to

I simply do not trust reddit and random mods to censor the real time feed of information coming out of the conflict.

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Post by smokel »

toofy wrote: post #294
_8j50 wrote: post #262

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Most communication happens on the internet these days. But also, my whole point is the "friends" bubble is increasingly getting smaller and tribal. We don't interact with strangers because our communication platforms optimize and moderate them away. How can democracy work if you can't talk to and convince fellow citizens on various controversial topics? Even on HN, I was doing fine until I started commenting on polit…

i’m not trying to be dismissive of your concerns, so if this post comes across that way, i apologize in advance. im aware this will be wordy, i can't really sum this up in a more succinct way--im with the family doing easter dinner so i dont have the mental bandwidth to eloquently sum this up. i think the subjects surrounding this are super important for the future of the internet so its impossible to put the nuance…

A bit lengthy, but I for one tend to agree.

Basically, most of us haven't figured out how to meaningfully make the switch from real-life communication to online.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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Post by asdff »

kbenson wrote: post #217
asdff wrote: post #169

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But thats not what the reddit owners care about. They are happy people like you leave, you are hard to monetize and block ads. The people who look at the front page today and say this is great? They don't block ads. They don't use old reddit. They don't realize when they are engaging with a shill post. Reddit wants proportionally more of them and less of you, and they are winning.

That only works to a point I think. If your forum devolves to only having the easily duped people, it becomes a lot less interesting overall (since the content is from the people) and even those people leave.

Its about making as much money as soon as possible so you can cash out and diversify. Its not about making a long term sustainable forum model.

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Post by stevenicr »

toofy wrote: post #267
nullserver wrote: post #246

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Twitter is doing fantastic. Just because people want to go back to more censorship doesn’t mean Twitter is dying.

> Twitter is doing fantastic. Reported yesterday [0] that it’s worth 73% less than when elon took over. You absolutely may have a different definition of fantastic but what was once one of the largest social sites losing 3/4 of its value in 15 months is significant. aside from actual financial analysts, my own personal anecdata has pretty much mirrored their analysis. i’ve gone back and gave it an honest try like 4 o…

Just gotta say that both things can be true.

Investment banks can find it worth less than it was from a return on stock financial view,

and millions of users can find it a fantastic messaging portal,

and individual people may not like aspects of the portal.

"was once one of the largest social sites" - I feel that X is still one of the largest social sites wordlwide and especially in the US.. Priori Data has them in the top 12 of the world at 600 million users 6 days ago.

(https://prioridata.com/data/social-media-usage/ )

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Post by takeda »

al_borland wrote: post #301
takeda wrote: post #283

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Really? My impression is that everyone is welcome. The only way I could imagine someone ending having a bad time there is to be hostile to other users.

I’ve been a part of a lot of online communities going back 20 years. The fediverse had the most off-putting user base of any I’ve experienced so far. I liked the whole decentralized idea, but the users and culture drove me away.

Tildes is not part of fediverse.

As for fediverse a lot of depends on the server you chose, for example https://beehaw.org is much friendlier.

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Post by takeda »

soderfoo wrote: post #304
al_borland wrote: post #301

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I’ve been a part of a lot of online communities going back 20 years. The fediverse had the most off-putting user base of any I’ve experienced so far. I liked the whole decentralized idea, but the users and culture drove me away.

What's the user culture like? I haven't had time to check it out myself.

It depends a lot which server you join, https://beehaw.org it's very welcoming, https://lemmygrad.ml is full of tankies that hate the West (supposedly it's about communism, because original creator is a communist, but it's more pro Russia pro China, anti US and in support anything the West doesn't support and vice versa). If you go to https://lemmy.world (the biggest server) you'll see mostly memes.

Though you can subscribe to different communities and customize your experience, often what you can experience from specific community depends on which server it is located.

https://programming.dev/ and https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/ might be good for technology related communities.

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