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Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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Canadian government once again proving it is stupid. These are the same groups that had moral panics and tried to ban video games and rock and roll without any actual information. Just root a phone and you have a far more powerful hacking platform.

Don't forget the attacks by the fictional land of Diagolon.

Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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post #308

Canadian government once again proving it is stupid. These are the same groups that had moral panics and tried to ban video games and rock and roll without any actual information. Just root a phone and you have a far more powerful hacking platform.

Every government is stupid, and eventually becomes this (and worse) if there aren't protections in place to prevent the government from unilaterally acting on its stupidity. Those protections tend to be eroded over time and need to be aggressively defended and reinforced.

Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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If your car key can be copied using a simple replay attack, it is not a key.

You can copy most old-style keys from a picture of them... that seems like the wireless equivalent...

Aren’t pictures wireless?

Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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A CBC article (edited since then) also mentioned the Raspberry Pi. Hopefully it's just bad journalism.

Great, that's just what we need. Can we criminalize all x86-64 computers after this? Surely one can run an SDR on linux using such a nefarious device?

The coming war on general purpose computation has arrived. https://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html

Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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It's a script kiddie tool that requires zero knowledge of radio theory and programming.

I've learned a lot from mine, especially how many types of access control RFID work. And I've been working on commercial SDR projects for the past decade.

The problem always comes down to lack of responsible use. Great, you learned a lot. Others are using it for harm. So now we have a problem.

Look at the state of CB radio. Anybody can buy and use one. The airwaves are clogged with the trucker equivalent of YouTube Poop. It's like being in a fucking mental hospital.

Ham radio requires licensing. There are still cranks but now there's a barrier to entry for most of them. It's still usable.

Lockpicks are illegal to carry in parts of America, unless you're a licensed locksmith.

Look at the state of the internet, 1997 vs now. The difference is we onboarded everybody.

Broadly speaking, trolling/crime (and tools to perpetrate it) should not be frictionless. Attacks on infrastructure (malware, etc.) are getting too expensive and social attacks are basically free to execute and costly to respond to.

You can bring any western company to a grinding halt by getting a bunch of entry-level stooges to file false workplace violence and other complaints indiscriminately in bad faith. There's no cost or consequence for this, and the company will panic trying to accommodate in good faith, but do the same with police reports and everyone gets charged with misdemeanors for abusing the system.

Unearned privileges are always abused.

Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can copy most old-style keys from a picture of them... that seems like the wireless equivalent...

Aren’t pictures wireless?

true, I guess... but maybe you understand what I meant.

Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't shout your physical keys into the sky every time you unlock your door for anyone in a 100m radius to hear.

> You don't shout your physical keys into the sky Sure you do... all you need is a very high resolution camera in the vicinity....

You're describing whispering, not shouting.
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