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Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by drewdevault »

bogwog wrote: post #234
drewdevault wrote: post #60

Consider discarding the CLA if you anticipate third-party contributions. If you need to verify provenance, the Developer Certificate of Origin is a better approach. Otherwise, this (correctly) reads as a project which intends to take advantage of FOSS contributors for a while before pulling the rug and making it non-free again.

I like CLAs. If there's an open source project that I love/depend on, I will most likely want to be able to contribute to it for my own personal reasons at some point (e.g. fix a bug that bothers me or add a feature I want). I am a Sublime Text addict, but hate how slow development is and how resistant they are to adding more dev-focused features. I would happily sign a CLA if it meant I could modify the code myself,…

You do not need to give anyone special permission to sell your contribution, everyone in the world is equally entitled to make commercial use of (including outright sale of) free and open source software; without this it is not free or open source.

The only purpose of a CLA like this is to provide for a future where the software can be made non-free again.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by davidmurdoch »

sarlalian wrote: post #296
davidmurdoch wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Words have actual meanings.

The full text is: > Work with code on any machine > When you join a teammate's project, you can navigate and edit as if the code is on your local machine. Open any file, type with low latency, and interact with language servers. It all works seamlessly, whether you're working with someone at the next desk or on a different continent. I'm curious what part of that indicates that it means any operating system? It is cl…

It's the context of the entire page that gives it that meaning.

Here's an interesting perspective: https://chat.openai.com/share/6ac010c4-dc4c-43ec-8b34-fc68a2...

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Post by ilc »

jamil7 wrote: post #258
safouen wrote: post #21

i've heared about Zed for a long time and it seems promising but as long as it's not on windows/linux it's not for developers.

Ah yes windows, the classic developer OS.

If you have the right tools. Windows is just fine for development.

Visual Studio is widely considered one of the best IDEs out there today.

Personally, I use Linux for my work on Linux, what IDE varies depending on my work. JetBrains, VSCode, neovim. But I've used other eco-systems.

I still miss Genera. That thing was amazing.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by mynameisvlad »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #312

I like a lot of what I see of this but 1. Whenever I open a new window it fills the full height and width of my screen. 2. I just have no faith in a product which hand waves how it's going to make money.

Why would you need to have "faith" in an open source product? You can always get an older copy or build it yourself, or it could be forked by the community if it's popular enough and the original gets completely abandoned.

For that matter, why does an open source product need to make money in the first place?

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Post by dnsco »

flexagoon wrote: post #248
Octoth0rpe wrote: post #51

I'm generally a big fan of zed and have been using it for 60%ish of my dev time for 6 months or so. A couple of nice things to note: - It really is remarkably responsive,and makes one really notice how UNresponsive everything else is. I have reasonably fast machines, so we're not talking about the difference between 5ms typing lag and 500ms, but it's still pretty surprising. VSCode never felt slow on my macs until I…

> older editors that are doing syntax highlighting via regex. I mean, Emacs, which can probably be considered the oldest code editor at this point, got built-in tree-sitter (which is what Zed uses under the hood) support in the last release. So it's not really related to editors being new or old

It's not just tree-sitter that makes zed feel snappy.

If you're using a reasonably fast language-server, which rust-analyzer apparently is (I didn't know this using vscode), the autocomplete & intentions feel instantaneous.

I think the team has learned a lot from previous editor implementations (they were the core team of atom that was notoriously slow), and so they've had an opportunity to do a lot of stuff right.

FWIW they also are the team that originally wrote tree-sitter.

The quickness feels more like it's in the core of the editor. I was shocked how much it impacted the editing experience when I tried it in early beta.

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Post by Aeolun »

ethanwillis wrote: post #115
toastercat wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm already picturing a "Zedium" fork for the FOSS/Privacy enthusiasts.

This made me chuckle. Then at the same time I find it disheartening that privacy is currently seen as an enthusiast position rather than the default. I really dont mind the idea of these anti-privacy things being included as long as I have an option to turn them off before running Zed for the first time.

To use them you’d need to already have a copilot subscription, and the GPT-4 thing apparently requires you to deliberately invoke a command. I’d say it’s pretty safe by default.

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Post by sarlalian »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #303
sarlalian wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My reply was to contextualize that it wasn't a lie. Maybe a poor choice of words, but given the context on the page, it's clear what it is talking about, which isn't the application being cross platform. A lie implies deception, which I think given the context on the page there wasn't any intention to deceive, just poorly chosen words that can have different meanings depending on the context.

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Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by sarlalian »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #313
sarlalian wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The full text is: > Work with code on any machine > When you join a teammate's project, you can navigate and edit as if the code is on your local machine. Open any file, type with low latency, and interact with language servers. It all works seamlessly, whether you're working with someone at the next desk or on a different continent. I'm curious what part of that indicates that it means any operating system? It is cl…

It's the context of the entire page that gives it that meaning. Here's an interesting perspective: https://chat.openai.com/share/6ac010c4-dc4c-43ec-8b34-fc68a2...

I'm assuming that chatgpt agrees with you, personally I'm avoiding using their software until they figure out a better relationship with content creators / artists than they have right now. I still think calling it a lie is hyperbolic and inflammatory when it's just mediocre copy. Hope you have a great day.
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