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Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by dpkonofa »

mmarquezs wrote: post #228
dghughes wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

*water Pure not salt water or tap water, not contaminated toilet water where most phones seem to end up. And only for a certain time at a certain depth (pressure). And not pressurized just static. Maybe they should be named USB-Sea? /s

Have you seen the same Apple ads as me? Because they show it under rain, under the faucet, covered in Coke, etc. I agree it's resistant and it does what you say... But the way they advertise it....

None of those things would trip the internal liquid sensors, though. That's the entire point. If the phone is actually up to spec (which, I have to assume it is), then any internal liquid damage would have to come from using the phone out of the spec.

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Post by waynecochran »

ratg13 wrote: post #38
waynecochran wrote: post #26

I had to throw away my COMPLETELY DRY cord and get a new one because Apple reported the presence of water. New coord -- no problems.

I hate to be the one to inform you that manufacturing issues exist and cables can be damaged through regular use. Water bridging a connection and the connector being broken are indistinguishable to the device.

So why state that water is the issue?

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Post by dpkonofa »

indymike wrote: post #288
aplummer wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is selling a waterproof phone. Because it’s not Apple.

My iPhone 15 was advertised as meeting IP68 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 6 meters up to 30 minutes) and Apple even publishes a handy list of their products and how water resistant/proof they are: https://support.apple.com/en-us/108039 > Because it’s not Apple. It is.

That's IP68 Water Resistance. That's not the same thing as Waterproof.

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Post by dpkonofa »

cameldrv wrote: post #299

IMO it's dirty pool for Apple to advertise their products as waterproof (IP68) and then even if a drop of water gets on the external case, they will refuse to honor the warranty, even if the water has nothing to do with the problem. They don't even want to perform out of warranty, paid repairs if any of the liquid sensors are tripped. A few years back I had an MBP that the battery had worn out on, but several years b…

>even if a drop of water gets on the external case, they will refuse to honor the warranty

This is both not true and so hyperbolic it's ridiculous. IP68 is only colloquially "waterproof" as none of the IP ratings have an indefinite exposure time.

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Post by autoexec »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #163
Dalewyn wrote: post #150

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And Sony Xperias still come with headphone jacks today[1] after they tried Apple'ing for a couple models and got laughed at. [1]: https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/mobile-phones-table...

Real question / No trolling: I feel like I am the last living human who still uses the headphone jack. When I walk around my city, I see almost zero other people using it. They using wireless earbuds. I avoid wireless earbuds to avoid yet-another-battery-to-be-charged. Is this true for other HNers also?

I avoid wireless earbuds because I don't want bluetooth enabled (tracking via bluetooth is pervasive) and there are way to many drawbacks (poor audio quality, high latency, pairing issues, battery). You get far more options (and higher quality options) with wired headphones.

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Post by konschubert »

MereInterest wrote: post #233
konschubert wrote: post #149

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Revealed preferences.

Revealed preferences assumes that there are no confounding factors, no tyranny of small decisions, no information asymmetry and an unlimited selection of products that vary along every combination of features. It’s economic drivel, and serves only to dismiss opinions out of hand.

My point is that small phones don’t sell well.

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Post by PawgerZ »

pi-e-sigma wrote: post #272
kalleboo wrote: post #200

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I switched to Bluetooth earbuds way back in 2007 when they were still novel (Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 represent - with an LCD screen for switching between paired devices!). When I use wired headphones they get caught on door handles etc and have a lifespan of like 6 months before they get torn apart. I still use wired (with a dongle) for calls, since Bluetooth Headset profile sounds like crap and I have enough trouble…

your headphones get caught on door handles? How?

How would they not? I can't count how many times I snagged my headphones on something and my phone went flying or the headphones got yanked out of my ear before wireless headphones.

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Post by cameldrv »

dpkonofa wrote: post #315
cameldrv wrote: post #299

IMO it's dirty pool for Apple to advertise their products as waterproof (IP68) and then even if a drop of water gets on the external case, they will refuse to honor the warranty, even if the water has nothing to do with the problem. They don't even want to perform out of warranty, paid repairs if any of the liquid sensors are tripped. A few years back I had an MBP that the battery had worn out on, but several years b…

>even if a drop of water gets on the external case, they will refuse to honor the warranty This is both not true and so hyperbolic it's ridiculous. IP68 is only colloquially "waterproof" as none of the IP ratings have an indefinite exposure time.

There are liquid sensors in the ports, and if a drop of water gets on them, they will turn red and Apple will refuse to honor your warranty. Apple claims the iPhone is waterproof to 6 meters for 30 minutes, but if you put your phone in one inch of water for one second, your warranty is void.

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Post by Affric »

ethanbond wrote: post #245
chris_wot wrote: post #93

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If they decide to go down this path, someone in Australia will report them to the ACCC. If they are using it as an excuse to avoid their warranty obligations, then they will be sorry.

Your claim is that in Australia, you cannot offer a warranty that exempts water damage? I find that extremely hard to believe.

It does not.
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