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That plane was literally at their OKC facility for maintenance on Dec 31, so… yes? Planes are not cars. They don’t go in once a year to change the oil filter and tighten a few bolts.
You should probably get your oil changed more frequently than once a year…but yes, aircraft do need a lot of maintenance.
Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization
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Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization
#312Yeah, sure Boeing, let's just give your planes a pass to get them in the air...this is literally the last headline they needed.
"If it's Boeing, I'm not going." I was on a flight that made and emergency landing once, it was TERRIFYING. The pilot circled once then we went down at a very steep angle. What was even worse was the three days we were stranded in Gander Newfoundland while they fixed the plane and then flew in a new crew. It was basically an refueling/military base and not a real airport, no food or facilities. After that I never fle…
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#313Can't help but remember a recent discussion about Russian planes and how it all sucks "because alcoholism". Wonder if those full-of-themselves people will blame fentanyl and weed here, hehehehe. Feels kind of karmic.
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#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
Me not spending a flight will have zero effect on Boeing. The FAA threatening to ground their planes will however get their attention. The FAA actually do quite a good job and if anything are maybe a bit over the top in enforcing saftey given that for most people there is near zero risk of dying in a plane crash compared to a lot of stuff that people do die regularly from.
One vote won't make a difference either, should people not vote? I'm not saying the FAA shouldn't also intervene, I'm simply pointing out that consumers almost always seem to ignore their own power in the situation. What you're describing feels much like a tragedy of the commons problem. If I chose not to fly everyone else still will and I'll be left driving around like a schmuck. I might as well fly too, and when I'…
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#315Earlier quoted context omitted.
You should probably get your oil changed more frequently than once a year…but yes, aircraft do need a lot of maintenance.
What modern car calls for oil changes more than once a year, assuming you’re not exceeding the mileage?
Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization
#316Is the FAA going to drag their feet again grounding this plane until the problem is root caused?
I’d be willing to bet all planes built in the last year or so will be grounded immediately. As for others, possibly if they determine the issue is long standing and we’ve just been lucky.
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#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm no expert, but I've always assumed these pressurized cabins aren't exactly hermetically sealed, so a small invisible hole wouldn't noticeably depressurize the plane. My assumption has been there's always fresh air actively added continuously at a rate that can compensate for such small leaks, and that it's just an automatically regulated thing. Maybe a gauge/alarm visible to the pilots would indicate an out of sp…
It wouldn’t take much of a hole to depressurize the plane. And unplanned holes in a pressure vessel have a tendency to rapidly get larger.
I suspect that's only an issue on airliners when the hole happens in a window.
There's no shortage of search results confirming that something like gunfire on an airliner likely won't depressurize the plane unless it hits a window....
Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization
#319What strikes me with the ATC recording is that I can barely hear what they say (and that's the case with almost every ATC recording I heard before). And that's without being in a noisy environment (plane in flight). Is the quality really that bad? Doesn't that cause miscommunications? It seems like a fairly fixable problem in 2024.
The receivers for LiveATC and the like are frequently somewhat compromised in terms of quality and location. This can cause poor quality reception depending on the location and distance away of the transmitter. The radios and antennas on both the aircraft and for ATC are not only of much higher quality but are also positioned as perfectly as possible so as to maximize Tx/Rx performance. All that to say, the pilots an…
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#320Earlier quoted context omitted.
One vote won't make a difference either, should people not vote? I'm not saying the FAA shouldn't also intervene, I'm simply pointing out that consumers almost always seem to ignore their own power in the situation. What you're describing feels much like a tragedy of the commons problem. If I chose not to fly everyone else still will and I'll be left driving around like a schmuck. I might as well fly too, and when I'…
> One vote won't make a difference either, should people not vote? Basically, yes. Voting changes you way more than it ever changes the world, and introspection about that is worth considering.
That’s what happens where people can vote and expect that their vote actually counts.