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Salim Kara stole $2M in coins with a magnet and a car antenna (2022)

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Re: Salim Kara stole $2M in coins with a magnet and a car antenna (2022)

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But the money literally isn't there, and the FDIC insurance that secures up to a limit is itself poorly funded and incapable of covering the failure of a moderately sized bank. Saying the money appears to be there is very different from the reality of it, and in the context of whether customers consent to how the system works its also feels disingenuous IMO. Can people spend the money as though it were there? Sure. I…

> FDIC insurance that secures up to a limit is itself poorly funded and incapable of covering the failure of a moderately sized bank Can you clarify what you mean by "covering the failure of a moderately sized bank"? Bank is almost never "all the money is missing". Instead, it's usually something like "we have assets > deposits, but they're long term assets that can't be liquidated immediately so we can't pay all the…

The FDIC insurance fund has been below its target reserve rate for years now and continues to be underfunded.

At the end of 2022 the fund had $128.2 billion. I can't find a solid number on domestic deposits that are covered by FDIC based on the maximum deposit amount, but their Q2 2023 report showed $17.2 trillion in total domestic deposits across all FDIC institutions.

I'd expect that more than 0.7% of all deposits are under the $250k deposit limit. Let's just say 30% is actually covered, SVB had 89% of deposits above the limit when it failed, the insurance fund couldn't cover the failure of a bank with more than 3% of the market share of deposits.

The caveat there is that bank assets can be liquidated, but if the failure is fast enough that becomes really hairy. I haven't yet seen clear details on what strings they pulled and what sweetheart deals they gave when SVB was sold at the last minute, but that really means the fund isn't funded to cover enough and the hope really lies in market manipulation and a forced sale (likely funded in part by tax payers).

Re: Salim Kara stole $2M in coins with a magnet and a car antenna (2022)

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Hm, true. But I sometimes see people walking along beaches doing this kind of thing. Though they're probably hoping for rings (gold, silver, diamond, ...) rather than coins, which would make it much more lucrative as well.

Gold, silver, and diamond are also non-magnetic.

Metal detectors, which is what they were describing, find metal that isn't magnetic.

Re: Salim Kara stole $2M in coins with a magnet and a car antenna (2022)

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The 38k/year was the most striking part of the article. According to a (US) inflation calculator that would be 130k today https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ which seems very good for an apparently entry level job.

It's a Canadian dollar, so about 20% less or so than USD at that time.

Currency exchange rate is pretty similar now which suggests similar inflation rates to both.

Re: Salim Kara stole $2M in coins with a magnet and a car antenna (2022)

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Skimming from public transit is an old trick. There was case like this in Boston about 15 years ago that came to light as they were switching away from tokens to Charlie Cards. It was an MBTA mechanic. IIRC he was caught because it looked strange that someone kept showing up with bags of tokens to exchange for cash at one of the stations. Even with the new card system, someone figured out a scheme to steal: https://w…

For years San Francisco had a major problem with city employees and contractors stealing the money from the meters. https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/robbed-blind-parking-cza...

Amsterdam too.. It was a huge problem.

Re: Salim Kara stole $2M in coins with a magnet and a car antenna (2022)

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This was 40 years ago and he was stealing hundreds of coins a day. Also, I'm sure you realize, but the US has had dollar coins since at least 1971. The public never really had much interest in using them and with cash use declining, I wouldnt expect that to change.

The coins don’t work unless you stop production of, and start reclaiming the bill variant. Nobody wants to carry change, so of course they favour the bill rather than the coin. Canadians didn’t have much interest in carrying the toonie either, but had no choice in the matter.

The problem is actually pennies. There aren't enough coin slots in cash register draws so there is no where to put dollar coins. If we got rid of pennies we would have a place to put them.

Re: Salim Kara stole $2M in coins with a magnet and a car antenna (2022)

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> In 1981, Kara was hired on a $ 38k-a-year salary to maintain and fix the 68 ticket machines of Edmonton’s LRT – light rail transit system. If that was their 1981 salary, that’s damn impressive.

Put another way, the current generation of earners have a raw deal. High inflation, high cost of housing etc. etc. Oh, Canada!

Re: Salim Kara stole $2M in coins with a magnet and a car antenna (2022)

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A quick Google didn't return any books on this, unfortunately. What stood out for me was that the Canadian tax authorities didn't get to him. Maybe he payed tax on his earnings; the article doesn't clarify.

Is not paying tax on income from theft actually tax fraud? I mean, the theft itself is obviously unlawful. But perhaps you wouldn't be taxed on theft proceeds anyway, so no tax laws are broken in that case.

>Is not paying tax on income from theft actually tax fraud?

Well tax on income is theft ( my opinion). So tax on theft income would be theft on theft. Life sure is complicated ;)

Re: Salim Kara stole $2M in coins with a magnet and a car antenna (2022)

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Skimming from public transit is an old trick. There was case like this in Boston about 15 years ago that came to light as they were switching away from tokens to Charlie Cards. It was an MBTA mechanic. IIRC he was caught because it looked strange that someone kept showing up with bags of tokens to exchange for cash at one of the stations. Even with the new card system, someone figured out a scheme to steal: https://w…

In Boston in the '90s and early 2000s, an out of order parking meter meant you could park for free. There was a sensor in the coin slot to detect jams which would in turn put the meter out of order. If you ripped off the flip up lid from a Dunkin Donuts coffee cup and inserted it into and removed it from the coin slot, the meter would go out of order. It was almost as if that's what the Dunkin engineers designed it f…

I was visiting my cousin in Seattle, I must have been 15. Everyone else went in while he “fixed the meter” I hung back and watched. He sat on the curb filing a penny on the concrete. Apparently if you file it so it fits in the dime slot the rough edge would catch and you could just keep spinning the dial to add the max time to the meter. Of course don’t choose one of the old copper ones or you’ll be there all night.

The repair shops must have hated that. Imagine having to take apart meter after meter to remove the stuck penny.

Re: Salim Kara stole $2M in coins with a magnet and a car antenna (2022)

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Was the cash box here the primary source of income??

Probably not: their (1?) LRT line was just 1 chunk of their transit system, and systems generally have a weekly/monthly/student pass to uhhh, reward their heaviest users.

And govt funding is probably a major chunk of the income as well (if it can be considered income and not just part of budget)
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