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How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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>Especially at lower levels, chess is a game of short term patterns, not long term strategy. That’s actually wrong. Short-term patterns will improve your chess short-term but you’ll hit the plateau pretty fast. They don’t teach you to play better at chess. It’s like copypasting some code from the Internet without fully understanding how it works. In chess, it’s absolutely necessary to have a long-term plan: especiall…

I've tried learning strategies rather than tactics, but it's significantly harder both to learn and to use. I've learned a lot about imbalances for example, but all of this knowledge goes out of the window whenever I start playing.

You actually shouldn't learn any strategies. They're usually too difficult and very often don't make any sense. There are two possible long-term plans: giving the checkmate and gaining more resources if you feel like you don't have enough to give the checkmate. In the majority of your middlegames (depending on your level) your plan should be attacking the king. Attack the king and align your moves with this plan. That's the only strategy you should have. Don't overcomplicate chess. Then you should play as much as possible and get feedback. Most of the time you get it when you make a mistake and your opponent punishes you. This way you can slowly, game by game, build the next layer of your chess understanding.

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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https://postimg.cc/yWFXJp7W I unsubscribed immediately after getting the first. And I deleted some without marking them spam, so I got about double.

I don't see how using a throwaway email was the giveaway that it was Chess.com sending those emails, the emails are clearly from Chess.com. The comment I replied to made it sound as though they sold your data to a third party for marketing purposes or had a data breach.

You're right, I was unclear. Yes, it's all from them and it annoyed me they kept coming after I unsubscribed.

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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No one is saying you won in 3 moves. You didn't accidentally get to 2000 by playing trash openings, period.

Of course, it was by consistent 6-12 hour daily chess activities where most of the play was 2+1/3 blitz and 80%+ of the openings used queen very early. I played for fun without any particular goal outside of short term winning. I relied on my own learning progression and accepted it was inefficient. I'm pretty sure after 1-2 years, others could have achieved much more with the time I put in. I am not claiming it was…

Sorry but I'm not believing this without any proof.

This whole post is about how difficult it is to study chess and to improve, and you just stumble to 2000 playing for fun, with no study and no endgame knowledge. Also, consistency is most definitely not enough to improve: if you consistently practice the wrong things, you won't improve. And, if you didn't study chess at all and just played, like you mentioned, I also find it hard to believe that when you hit a roadblock you were able to identify what you needed to practice and implement a plan.

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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When I first encountered chess as a kid I thought it was a game about thinking because that's how we played it. I was good at it. Then in high school I've met a kid that wiped the floor with me because he actually was taught how to play chess. I played with him few times until I won once just because he was lulled by a streak of wins. That was enough for me so I stopped bothering him with myself. Later in some other…

My favourite example of that is retired physics professors who assume economics must be easy compared to physics and write opinion pieces about how the country should be run (and make first year economics student errors).

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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chess.com puts some effort in detecting cheaters. When I was active user I was receiving messages stating that such and such game was lost to cheater and my rating is updated to reflect that. Cheater detection sounds like very interesting problem

Cheating detection can only be achieved statistically (it's kind of like proving a random number generator isn't random). It makes it easy to achieve great accuracy in the long run, but hard to be accurate in the short run, because you don't want false alarms. So 99.9% of cheaters may get banned after a few games, but since they keep on coming up (it's not hard to simply register another account, after all), the frus…

Some kind of shadow banning would be suitable. Let them play bots, or just other cheaters.

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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I've been playing on lichess for about 10-15 years, started playing when I was over 30. I probably average one 5+0 game a day. I don't play in tournaments. Usually one game for a break and then get back to work. My philosophy is skill level and rating doesn't affect enjoyment. Whether I'm rated 700 or 2700, once my rating stabilizes, I win as many games as I lose. I have the capacity to improve a little with a lot of…

But the games might have more depth, and be more interesting, the more skilled you are.

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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I was introduced to chess in adulthood by a friend who taught chess in schools. His advice: play 2000 games without worrying about game play or outcome. Worked great for me.

We have the same advice in go. But it's lose your first 50 games as fast as possible. https://senseis.xmp.net/?LoseYourFirst50GamesAsQuicklyAsPoss...

Hey now that I'm reading this, that's exactly the way my friend phrased it as well. Best wishes.

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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Cheating detection can only be achieved statistically (it's kind of like proving a random number generator isn't random). It makes it easy to achieve great accuracy in the long run, but hard to be accurate in the short run, because you don't want false alarms. So 99.9% of cheaters may get banned after a few games, but since they keep on coming up (it's not hard to simply register another account, after all), the frus…

Some kind of shadow banning would be suitable. Let them play bots, or just other cheaters.

Good idea, apparently this is - or at least was - already being done on lichess, albeit not without some controversies (of the sort that's fairly typical whenever shadow banning enters the picture).

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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Cheating detection can only be achieved statistically (it's kind of like proving a random number generator isn't random). It makes it easy to achieve great accuracy in the long run, but hard to be accurate in the short run, because you don't want false alarms. So 99.9% of cheaters may get banned after a few games, but since they keep on coming up (it's not hard to simply register another account, after all), the frus…

Some kind of shadow banning would be suitable. Let them play bots, or just other cheaters.

I cheated hard on this adventure time card wars game. Basically they stored "gems" offline on the client, so instead of buying a few gems, I'd just set the value like gems=9999999.

The thing was that matchmaking would match you up based on how many gems you spent. It inadvertently just set us all up with cheaters. The free game was pretty meh, but cheater's hell was a lot of fun. Everyone had every card, so the only way to win was being good at the game. I'm rather sad they killed the game eventually, it was a pretty well designed game.

I think bot hell for chess would be interesting too, the game becomes who can make better bots.

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