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Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Post by LMY »

is_true wrote: post #190
hawski wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if Renault is on the same level as Nissan. I understand they share a lot, but are not present on the American market.

Just one data point, someone I know sells cars and told me that the old Renault duster was based on a Nissan car but the new model is based on a Dacia car and it sucks.

In Europe it has always been known as Dacia Duster. Dacia in Europe is the "low cost brand" of Renault and to keep cost low they reuse components and parts already developed for previous Nissan and Renault models. Other manufacturers do the same or share components, for example the 1500cc Renault diesel engine used in the previous generation of Dacia Duster was also the same used in the Mercedes Class A.

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Post by grzm »

itake wrote: post #309
Paul_S wrote: post #282

I don't have to read the article to know it's Toyota. That's the kind of brand awareness only years of great track record can buy. If you're playing the long game, money invested in reliability gain you more than marketing.

Toyota is second to Lexus.

Lexus is Toyota.

> Lexus is the luxury vehicle division of the Japanese automaker Toyota Motor Corporation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus

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Post by msisk6 »

unfocused wrote: post #223
willis936 wrote: post #208

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The message is clear: steer clear of Subaru if you want a reliable engine.

Would you say this is still true? I’m about to receive the 2023 Subaru Forester. It seems like it has good reliability from all the reviews.

I've had a half dozen or so Subaru's and have had little trouble with any of them. Currently we have a '17 Forester we bought new currently with 120k miles on it and just last week I picked up a used '21 Ascent.

The Forester has been though two batteries and just last week I had a wheel bearing in the rear replaced. No other trouble and still runs fine.

I got the Ascent to keep out in Seattle and that'll be my car there -- it'll fit right in -- Subaru seems to make up about 30% of cars in the Seattle area.

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Post by aalimov_ »

omginternets wrote: post #105
aalimov_ wrote: post #61

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Yeah there’s certainly a temptation there if you’re into working in cars. Alongside your tuning/hooning remark - some cars certainly attract a particular kind of audience, although if it was really hoards, they would have probably released an STI variant for the new body :(

> they would have probably released an STI variant for the new body :( Pow, right in the feels :’) But in reality, I suspect this has more to do with the following two things: 1. The STi package has always had abysmal fuel economy, and I believe there are regulations that enforce an average fuel economy across an entire manufacturers fleet 2. Many (most?) of the modders and hooners are put off by the price. In fact,…

Yeah the fuel economy is definitely not a selling point even on the standard WRX. Couple that with a strange urge to engage in spirited driving and you’ll be getting your mpgs down to the teens or low twenties.

Re 1: I really hope they bring out a refreshed version, but I have a feeling that may not happen for a while… at least while batteries weigh what they do. Maybe a full EV version some day?

Re 2: yeah the STi was hardly affordable to (my guess) the majority of the crowd that’s into them.

I should have snagged an STi instead of the standard WRX when I had the chance. I love my wrx though, so much fun to drive.

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Post by resolutebat »

alasdair_ wrote: post #245
rngname22 wrote: post #197

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I think you could perhaps say that Japanese are extremely highly sensitive to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switching_barriers in indusrial and administrative processes relative to other cultures. If something causes friction or pain, but switching away / updating to a new system would incur a high cost or retraining time or break institutional knowledge, there seems to be an extreme bias to adapting to the pain rath…

The Japanese obsession with handwritten resumes and faxes come to mind.

For handwritten resumes, the pain is kind of the point: handwriting hundreds of copies, which must be perfect down to the last stroke, is how new grads demonstrate their diligence and commitment to future employers. (It's still an idiotic relic though.)

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Post by langarus »

blinding-streak wrote: post #286

What the hell happened to Mercedes? 29th out of 30 on the list. Truly awful. I've never driven one (let alone owned one) but by the marketing (and price) you'd think it was the greatest vehicle on earth.

They built that reputation on merit. But for the past 10 years they focused a lot on profits. Ask any mechanic and no one in his right mind would recommend getting one. Unless you don't mind paying frequent high fees for repairs.

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Post by whartung »

saulrh wrote: post #285
AmVess wrote: post #230

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Keep the 4Runner and buy something new for a family hauler. New vehicles are much safer from a structural standpoint than older ones. Modern high strength steels form the safety cage of the vehicle, and greatly reduce the risk of injury in offset frontal impacts, side impacts, and rear impacts. And then you have the multitudes of air bags. Finally, the various electronic gizmos that further reduce risk of injury. The…

To expand... - Improved FEM makes modern crumple zones deeper and smoother - Heavy use of composites dramatically improve the raw amount of energy absorbed by the car instead of the passengers - Better manufacturing methods mean parts can be shaped/placed to be less likely to enter the cabin - Better placement of more airbags means you're more likely to hit something soft - Better seats and better placements of bette…

Electronic stability control is pure wizardry. It’s useful to dig up some videos on YouTube watching it in action, or, even better, when it’s not in action. Look up the “Moose maneuver”.

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Post by eliseumds »

blinding-streak wrote: post #286

What the hell happened to Mercedes? 29th out of 30 on the list. Truly awful. I've never driven one (let alone owned one) but by the marketing (and price) you'd think it was the greatest vehicle on earth.

A few months ago I ordered an Uber Black in Bangkok and the driver showed up in a C300 AMG. I know it's not a high-end model (~50k USD), but I was shocked at how cheap the entire car felt. The leather is worse than the one used in base VW models, the armrests are pathetically small, visibility is bad. I'd 100% prefer to be a passenger in a Corolla or Camry.

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Post by itake »

grzm wrote: post #312
itake wrote: post #309

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Toyota is second to Lexus.

Lexus is Toyota. > Lexus is the luxury vehicle division of the Japanese automaker Toyota Motor Corporation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus

yes, but the article is about brands, not companies.
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