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Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Some subreddits such as r/malefashionadvice did achieve the critical mass required to fully migrate to another platform. In that case, the moderators never re-opened and were replaced by scabs by the admins. But the sub remained fully dead. The userbase had moved to a discord server, which is well run and has plenty of users in the 50+ age bracket not normally associated with the platform.

That sounds like an interesting place. Can you share the Discord?

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What subreddits did you frequent that now feel dead?

Many of those I frequented are now privated, many have been banned for having no moderators, discussion quality has become abysmal (i'm very glad that HN has collectively managed to resist reddit-style "humor" comment chains so far), the frontpage/default subreddits are full of politics, bots, karma farmers, sob stories and ragebait.

But which subs? You didn't answer...

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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The end result was a stalemate. Reddit did not change any of its policies. Enough of the people responsible for posting and managing content left the platform to cause a noticeable impact on it. Here's a fun thing to look at, https://subredditstats.com/ for any major subreddit, e.g.: https://subredditstats.com/r/worldnews https://subredditstats.com/r/explainlikeimfive https://subredditstats.com/r/videos All of the mo…

It’s bad data. They changed the way they collect data when the price of API access went up. The drop you see in July 2023 isn’t real.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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post #7

My outcome was the shutdown of Apollo, rather than the blackout. I no longer read Reddit on my phone. (Except for a link or two clicked from something else, but even then I go to `old.reddit` instead to read the comments). That was really where I wasted the most time on it. It’s kind of a relief. I think I was too “lazy” to stop on my own because Apollo was so comfortable to use.

On iOS, especially iPad, try:

- Narwhal 2: https://narwhal.app/

Of course, you pay the API costs. But this is pro work, countless UX details thoughtfully made.

- Winston: https://winston.cafe/

- Winston on GitHub: https://github.com/lo-cafe/winston

In TestFlight Beta, OK on iPhone but awkward on iPad unless full screen; layout is jumbled mess in stage manager windows.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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A massive decline in post quality. I don’t know what happened but ever since the blackout only garbage gets posted. Even the quality of niche subreddits has fallen. I think the blackout meant that all the well moderated “good” subreddits closed while the bad ones stayed open. Now the bad subreddits are more popular and have eclipsed the good subreddits. As for other websites, Lemmy and other federated aggregators hav…

I don't know about "only garbage gets posted". In one of the craft based subs I moderate (5m subs - reasonably sized one), it's not so much the quality of posts has dropped, it's that the quantity has dropped, and dropped significantly. This seems to directly translate to garbage posts getting a lot more visibility and sticking around for a lot longer. The good quality posts are still there, but proportionally the ga…

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Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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post #7

My outcome was the shutdown of Apollo, rather than the blackout. I no longer read Reddit on my phone. (Except for a link or two clicked from something else, but even then I go to `old.reddit` instead to read the comments). That was really where I wasted the most time on it. It’s kind of a relief. I think I was too “lazy” to stop on my own because Apollo was so comfortable to use.

Agreed it means I no longer read Reddit at all because Apollo’s gone. I tried last week ( after a few months off Reddit) to install the Reddit app, and it’s appallingly bad. It’s so confusing that I’m not quite sure what sub I’m reading, what’s user generated, and what’s an ad ( I was never a prolific poster, commenter, mod or anything - just reading is difficult now ) So independently of the politics, I’ve tried to…

> I’m not quite sure what sub I’m reading, what’s user generated, and what’s an ad

I'm unable to tell apart ads properly either quickly on reddit, and given the it's the same user action to collapse a comment and to click an ad that looks like a comment, I've misclicked on ads many, many times. It doesn't help that they place them at the top of the comments section and seem to be deliberately designed to look like gif comments.

As an advertiser I would not be particularly chuffed. I can say with confidence that my accidental ad click rate on reddit is 100%.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

tiktok made tv shows and movies unwatchable for me haha. that kind of media is just too slow. only sports at this point. I would say I watch 45m/day of tiktok. 5m here and there.

this comment cant be real

Not OP and not on TT, but some of my family have told me they have the same issue with movies and TV now.

I assume it's dopamine addiction playing out in the extreme.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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If you hated the mods, the mods lost. If you hated the admins, the admins lost. If you were a longtime user that is familiar with Reddit wholeheartedly supporting r/jailbait to bootstrap growth, you won because nothing about the website could bother you.

Was r/jailbait as bad as the name implies? I was a user for about 11 years and have never heard of it.

It was just amateur porn by young adult women or late teen girls, like mirror selfies by women/girls in bikinis with their tops pulled down or ass bent over or whatever, but the people in the photos were very young. Whether that meant 18, 19, or 17, or 16, people weren't too concerned.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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A massive decline in post quality. I don’t know what happened but ever since the blackout only garbage gets posted. Even the quality of niche subreddits has fallen. I think the blackout meant that all the well moderated “good” subreddits closed while the bad ones stayed open. Now the bad subreddits are more popular and have eclipsed the good subreddits. As for other websites, Lemmy and other federated aggregators hav…

>A massive decline in post quality. I don’t know what happened but ever since the blackout only garbage gets posted. Even the quality of niche subreddits has fallen.

The official mobile app is also really persistent about pushing content it thinks you might like which has the unintended consequence of generalizing those niche subreddits to the degree that they lose that niche focus. For example, if every /r/movies user gets /r/criterion pushed to them, the content of /r/criterion will slowly transform to match the tastes of the /r/movie users.

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