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OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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Post by strikelaserclaw »

adverbly wrote: post #136

And now we see who has the real power here. Let this be a lesson to both private and non-profit companies. Boards, investors, executives... the structure of your entity doesn't matter if you wake any of the dragons: 1. Employees 2. Customers 3. Government

Not really. The lesson to take away from this is $$$ will always win. OpenAI found a golden goose and their employees were looking to partake in a healthy amount of $$$ from this success and this move by the board blocks $$$.

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Post by boh »

There can exist an inherent delusion within elements of a company, that if left unchallenged, can persist. An agreement for instance, can seem airtight because it's never challenged, but falls apart in court. The OpenAI fallacy was that non-profit principals were guiding the success of the firm, and when the board decided to test that theory, it broke the whole delusion. Had it not fully challenged Altman, the board could've kept the delusion intact long enough to potentially pressure Altman to limit his side-projects or be less profit minded, since Altman would have an interest to keep the delusion intact as well. Now the cat is out of the bag, and people no longer believe that a non-profit who can act at will is a trusted vehicle for the future.

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Post by ChoGGi »

whatwhaaaaat wrote: post #164

I don’t trust any of this. Every one of these wired articles has been totally wrong. Altman clearly has major media connections and also seems to have no problem telling total lies.

https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028?s=20

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Post by kolinko »

breadwinner wrote: post #228
Mystery-Machine wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does Microsoft have full rights to ChatGPT IP? Where did you get that from? Source?

See here: https://stratechery.com/2023/openais-misalignment-and-micros...

The source for that (https://archive.ph/OONbb - WSJ), as far as I can understand, made no claim that MS owns IP to GPT, only that they have access to it's weights and code.

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Post by jacquesm »

falleng0d wrote: post #81
wxw wrote: post #16

Ilya signed it??? He's on the board... This whole thing is such an implosion of ambition.

he even posted a apology: https://x.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028?s=20 what the actual fuck =O

Naive is too soft a word. How can you be so smart and so out of touch at the same time?

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Post by nottheengineer »

mjirv wrote: post #15

The key line: “Microsoft has assured us that there are positions for all OpenAl employees at this new subsidiary should we choose to join.”

Sounds a lot like MS wants to have OpenAI but without a boards that considers pesky things like morals.

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Post by xena »

alentred wrote: post #248

So, all this happens over Meet, in Twitter, and by email. What is the possibility of an AGI having took over the control of the board members' accounts? It would be consistent with the feeling of a hallucination here.

This is just stupid enough to be the product of a human.

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Post by soderfoo »

joshstrange wrote: post #308

Well I give up. I think everyone is a "loser" in the current situation. With Ilya signing this I have literally no clue what to believe anymore. I was willing to give the board the benefit of the doubt since I figured non-profit > profit in terms of standing on principal but this timeline is so screwy I'm done. Ilya votes for and stands behind decision to remove Altman, Altman goes to MS, other employees want him bac…

It's almost like a ChatGPT hallucination. Where will this all go next? It seems like HN is melting down.

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Post by chankstein38 »

alentred wrote: post #248

So, all this happens over Meet, in Twitter, and by email. What is the possibility of an AGI having took over the control of the board members' accounts? It would be consistent with the feeling of a hallucination here.

Honestly, I feel like pretty low. That said, I kind of love the dystopian sci-fi that paints... So I'm going to go ahead and hope you're right haha
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