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Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by 1123581321 »

polishTar wrote: post #278
1123581321 wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

E cores are ~30% faster and P about 15%. So the question would be how much the Es assist when Ps are maxed on each chip. In any other situation, more/better E cores should outperform and extend battery. I’m not saying that means you should want to spend the money.

I love Apple's E cores. It just sucks that the M3 pro gains so few given the reduction in P cores. Apple's E cores take up ~1/4 the die space of their P core. If the M3 pro lost 2 performance cores but gained 4-8 efficiency cores it'd be a much more reasonable trade.

I’d like to see that. Good point about die space.

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Post by linguae »

dottjt wrote: post #47
scrlk wrote: post #7

Base 14" M3 MBP comes with 8 GB RAM at $1599 USD. That's pretty stingy.

That's what happens when there's no competition. Come up with an equivalent product with more RAM at the same price and I'll buy it. Sadly (or perhaps gladly, depending on your perspective), there just is no equivalent to a macbook for many people.

Yup, it seems that the "Apple tax" has gone up quite a bit since Apple shifted toward soldered RAM and storage for their products. You get excellent Apple Silicon chips with their performance and energy efficiency, as well as the most polished desktop OS (macOS), but it comes at a steep price, especially at non-base configurations. There seems to be plenty of deals for base-config Macs at places like Amazon and Costco, but if you want 24GB or 32GB of RAM, it seems that no deals can be found; you must pay full price for a custom configuration from Apple.

I was a long-time Mac user. I remember when my 2006 MacBook cost less than comparable PC laptops. My last Mac purchase was a refurbished 2013 Mac Pro I purchased from Apple in 2017; since 2021 I've switched to PCs. While I love the configuration choices and expandability of PCs, the operating system situation leaves much to be desired, in my opinion. The shenanigans Microsoft continues to pull with Windows as well as the Sisyphean development cycle of the Linux desktop ecosystem (systemd, Wayland, etc.) makes me peek at Apple whenever there's an announcement, but the steep prices for a Mac configuration that fits my needs are too much for me, and so I remain a PC user.

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Post by vidoc »

vidoc wrote: post #303
cultofmetatron wrote: post #283

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my intel died last week. had to get an m2 pro and THIS drops today. kinda salty that my intel couldn' have held out till the M3 was available

unless you went second hand, you should still be covered with the 30 day return policy no?

wow it's 14! definitely need to hurry up :)

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Post by goerz »

cultofmetatron wrote: post #283
internet2000 wrote: post #158

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I imagine the amount of people upgrading from an M2 Mac will be close to 0, while there's a lot of Intel stragglers out there.

my intel died last week. had to get an m2 pro and THIS drops today. kinda salty that my intel couldn' have held out till the M3 was available

“Last week” is well within the 2-week return window.

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Post by NoPicklez »

"The industry’s first 3-nanometer chips for a personal computer debut a next-generation GPU architecture and deliver dramatic performance improvements, a faster CPU and Neural Engine, and support for more unified memory"

This reads horribly in my opinion

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Post by rokkitmensch »

latchkey wrote: post #255
andrewprock wrote: post #250

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I'm still using a 2015 macbook for my personal daily driver. I have to plug it in regularly, but otherwise it works just fine for everything except video editing.

Any reason for not upgrading?

Fiscal prudence?

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Post by meflou »

saagarjha wrote: post #300
photonerd wrote: post #204

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Depends. Is it faster? Then it's an upgrade. Has the CPU industry really managed to pull off it's attempt at a bs coup that more cores always === better? I thought we'd learned our lesson with the silly Mhz Myth already?

Faster than what? M1 Pro? Just barely.

Reference should be M2 pro

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Post by kybernetyk »

latchkey wrote: post #255
andrewprock wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still using a 2015 macbook for my personal daily driver. I have to plug it in regularly, but otherwise it works just fine for everything except video editing.

Any reason for not upgrading?

>it works just fine for everything except video editing

would be my guess

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by Aloha »

Well, thats annoying. I just bought a M2 Max 16" MBP in mid September.

I wouldn't have expected a new revision in the same year. I also swear apple used to have a policy for this situation, but I can't find it now.

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Post by jayd16 »

miohtama wrote: post #126

> With the M3 family of chips, hardware-accelerated ray tracing comes to the Mac for the first time. Ray tracing models the properties of light as it interacts with a scene, allowing apps to create extremely realistic and physically accurate images. This, along with the new graphics architecture, allows pro apps to deliver up to 2.5x the speed of the M1 family of chips. Does this mean we can finally play Cyberpunk 20…

Do you mean at max raytracing settings? Alienware laptops should run Cyberpunk at 60, just not maxed out.
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