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Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by rip_netrunner » Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 2:25 PM UTC

ekidd wrote: post #118

tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

I powerlifed for years, with a truly excellent coach for much of that time. For what it was worth, she was Starting Strength certified and a successful international masters competitor. She fixed a subtle problem with my deadlift using nothing but the wrinkles on my T-shirt; my recovery improved dramatically. At 40, I was stronger than I was as a high school wrestler. I loved lifting. I remember casually picking up a…

I think it's important to point out to people that are hesitant to lift due to the perceived risk of injuring themselves is that lifting has a much lower injury rate than most other activities (with proper coaching and programming).

Citing from Bigger, Leaner, Stronger by Michael Matthews, he points to a review of 20 studies performed by Bond University that found the average injury rates for the following activities:

1. Bodybuilding - 1 / 1000 hours

2. Crossfit, Olympic Weightlifting, Powerlifting - 2-6 / 1000 hours

3. Long Distance Running - 10 / 1000 hours

4. Hi Impact Sports (Hockey, Football, Soccer, Rugby) - 6 - 260 / 1000 hours

I'm personally committed to progressively lifting heavy until I turn 40 at which point it becomes more difficult to add muscle. At that point, I'll look into transitioning into a sustainable program that will let me preserve as much muscle as possible as I age with minimal risk.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by wycy » Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 2:26 PM UTC

tayo42 wrote: post #75

Knees are such an interestingly fragile joint. You'd think evolution woukd have selected for something that at least heals on its own. Wish the article went into more detail about what happened.

So long as the parts last long enough for you to reproduce, the trait won't get selected for/against and evolved away.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by Jarmsy » Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 2:26 PM UTC

sk0g wrote: post #238

nkurz wrote: post #229

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"Natty" means natural, and describes those who lift without performance enhancing drugs such as steroids, although some questionable supplements might be allowed. The opposite, describing those who use such drugs, might be "enhanced".

What's the questionable supplements allowed? Herbal stuff like ashwagandha or whatever, or not-technically-steroids-but-close-enough substances like SARMs?

I think most people would count anything not forbidden for Olympic athletes as natty (not that most Olympic athletes actually are, but that's another discussion).

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by kayodelycaon » Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 2:28 PM UTC

javajosh wrote: post #298

justinator wrote: post #271

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I do share your dream - perhaps it's just empathy? Maybe a good start is to believe people who tell us they're suffering, even if what they're suffering from isn't obvious and physical.

>perhaps it's just empathy Any system can be hacked, including empathy. We call it "fraud" and unfortunately it seems that the number of humans who can keep two concepts in their head at the same time are vanishingly rare. So you end up with a useless "empathy vs fraud" debate repeated endlessly, roughly corresponding to the left and the right, and it doesn't go anywhere. Of course, what we need is a synthesis. The l…

Unfortunately, "risk of fraud" is a cover for the belief that giving their money to people who haven't worked as hard as they have is theft. Many want to decide who deserves their money more than themselves.

Being poor or disabled is effectively a character flaw.

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Post by JimtheCoder » Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 2:30 PM UTC

bowsamic wrote: post #304

JimtheCoder wrote: post #293

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"At my peak before a recent injury I was at 225 bench, 325 deadlifting and 275 squat." So you barely lift...?

In what world is that "barely lifting"? I don't think I've ever even seen anyone in my gym bench that much

If you have never seen anyone in your gym bench 2 plates...well...I am not sure what to say to you. Maybe find a different gym?

The person I was responding to is talking about SS, why 5/3/1 is more appropriate, and things of that nature.

If he MAXED out at a 225 bench, a 325 deadlift and a 275 squat, he has no business really talking about this sort of stuff. You don't even need a structured program to hit those numbers...you just need to do it.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by ekidd » Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 2:31 PM UTC

RankingMember wrote: post #297

swores wrote: post #266

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Am I right to assume there aren't any PEDs that are useful without having negatives? I have no interest in competing/fairness, the only weight training I do is a) very light and b) just to have slightly stronger muscles to make the life I want to live easier (from going on nice walks to cycling to being able to pick up a heavy object without stress etc.) So I don't care about stats or achievements or how my muscles l…

There are always negatives to PEDs- some of the impact can be mitigated, but you're taking a long-term risk for a short-term result. If your goal is healthy longevity, I would steer clear. That said, one supplement (not a PED) that is widely used and well-studied in the body-building world is creatine. Just make sure you drink enough water, as it causes you to retain a bit of water (I learned this the hard way, wakin…

Creatine has the advantage of being well supported by science, and safe for most people.

But for a beginning lifter, I wouldn't bother. Early on, literally every single workout will bring you bigger gains than creatine will. Do your 3x5 or 5x5 sets, go back a few days later, add 5 pounds. Easy.

Creatine makes the most sense once you've been lifting for a few months, and once you've figured out your diet, and your progress is starting to slow. As I understand it, it's tweaking your intramuscular energy storage just enough to turn a 9 rep set into a 10 rep set. Which is a good deal once you've exhausted your newbie gains.

But it's not going to do much for someone who's exercising casually.

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Post by yCombLinks » Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 2:31 PM UTC

kortex wrote: post #278

eitally wrote: post #259

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Well, one of the easiest paths is to stop doing oly lifts and start using DBs instead of a bar where possible. If you don't think you might have great form with DBs, just spend a few sessions at the beginning with a coach. The one thing it's hard to emulate with DBs are heavy deadlifts. For that, I built myself a resistance band platform similar to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/homegym/comments/kx57ho/i_made_a_re...…

Can you define the technical terms? Oly, DB, C2? I'm guessing DB is dumbbell (and bar is barbell).

Oly, the Olympic weightlifting lifts. C2 is a brand of rowing machine

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by rip_netrunner » Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 2:32 PM UTC

safety1st wrote: post #46

satvikpendem wrote: post #18

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Starting Strength is not recommended anymore: https://web.archive.org/web/20200528135350/https://thefitnes...

Your comment is being downvoted because it's low quality. It's basically a drive-by hit on SS with no context. I will upvote it and add some context. * thefitness.wiki is maintained by Reddit's r/fitness and it's a great resource. * Parent had to use an archive.org link because thefitness.wiki long ago removed the post he linked to. * I suspect they removed the post because thefitness.wiki now has a 'Basic Beginner R…

Read Barbell Prescription by Andy Baker. It's specifically written for 40+ year old lifters.

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Post by wing-_-nuts » Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 2:32 PM UTC

cogman10 wrote: post #300

Justsignedup wrote: post #233

How many people I know got hit by a car and had their life ruined horribly. Or a bad surgery. Things totally out of their control. We need to see disability as a cost to society we must pay, not a failure of individuals which is more or less what were treating it. The American disability system is basically proving (very painfully) that life is barely livable to get scraps of help. Like below poverty levels. I really…

Yup. I have a child with autism. The American system is cruel beyond imagination. To qualify them for social security and Medicaid I have to leave them impoverished. They can't have more than $2k worth of assets in their name. Instead it's a complex lawyer game of trusts to give my child any sort of inheritance. Yet they are basically guaranteed to end up in a group home (Even though I own my own home) because a care…

You should also look into an able account. Your son can have up to 100k in assets invested in what's basically a 529 for people with disabilities. It can go towards housing and food. Get them on snap as well. Every little bit helps.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by petabytes » Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 2:35 PM UTC

226_ebro_treaty wrote: post #292

Justsignedup wrote: post #279

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My fiance had intercranial hypertension. Which is a complex way of saying "we don't know the root cause of why your spinal fluid is causing so much pressure in your head that you want to take a ice pick and poke a hole in it!" which also decreases EVERYTHING due to brain pressure, so more tired, less ability to think, less sensitive to all senses, less emotional control (especially because you're in constant pain / f…

Hi, this was enlightening. I'm a dude who has IIH myself for now almost half a decade and I was at no point told this could reduce my cognitive abilities. I take Diamox just in case (to reduce the intracranial fluid). It was a heering experience to get this diagnosed. One day all of a sudden my head started hurting and didn't stop, for months. But I had no other symptoms so doctors didn't take me seriously and my neu…

I've had something so very similar. At one point I started having a lot of 'pressure' headaches after coming of Zoloft. It lasted for about 4 months. Just constant throbbing pain in the temples, and prevented me from doing critical thinking or working on my software projects. It was a horrible brain fog that basically crippled me mentally. I could do physical labor fine, but anything requiring me to use mental skill just left me sitting there like I was brain dead. After 4 months I went to the ER, got a MRI scan, went to a neurologist, and none of them could figure it out other than say it's because of anxiety. They put me on some blood pressure medication, and it seemed to mostly go away over a few months. I still have some headaches with the same type of pain but not lasting all day.