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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by Dah00n »

leesalminen wrote: post #145
LeoPanthera wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...BBC? Ars Technica? ...KQED and VOA? You're blocking discussion of some of the most reliably factual reporting on the planet.

Isn't VOA (and BBC for that matter) government owned & funded? That's enough right there for me to doubt their "reliably factual" reporting. It's hardly a political opinion- the owners of these services expect to get some return on their investment. Because they're not in it for the money (they can just create more money basically at will), then why are they in it? Likely to help craft a narrative that suits them.

VOA and BBC are not alike at all in my opinion. Many countries in Western/Northern Europe have government funded sites run like the BBC and they are mostly in the top of unbiased and free journalism. They also create a lot of high quality documentaries and crime thrillers.

Nothing is perfect and of course there's a certain kind of culture on each of these workplaces that will mske it either more left or right up or down, but they aren't controlled by politicians, just like a hospital isn't told how to treat patients by politicians.

I'd rank BBC News above all US news outlets (and I'll just add I'm neither from the US nor UK).

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by chronicsonic »

abtinf wrote: post #95

The single biggest deficiency of Kagi is Apple’s exclusive control over the list of selectable default search providers in iOS Safari. It is infuriating and is the one thing that has caused me to seriously try other browsers on mobile. The problem is, they are all terrible in some small paper cutting ways (including Orion, though that has been rapidly improving).

I use XSearch to replace the default Safari search engine, it also supports bangs.

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/xsearch-for-safari/id157990206...

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by JopV »

slaw wrote: post #280
xlbuttplug2 wrote: post #277

Either they've filtered out porn sites or they have a long way to go in terms of adoption.

I think porn sites are already filtered by Google. Kagi doesn't have it's own search, it is just layer over Google search.

Kagi does have its own search index of niche sites, they even have an API for it. This is combined with Google results; they used to combine with Bing as well but stopped due to Microsoft charging too much money.

Very different from DuckDuckGo and Startpage which are still just a Bing proxy and a Google proxy respectively.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by Dah00n »

Nextgrid wrote: post #155
munk-a wrote: post #19

I'm surprised Reddit isn't higher on the list. Either I'm on a desktop and Reddit's website is a bit clunky to use - or I'm on mobile and I have to click past several attempts at them to funnel me into their app. It is a true shame that so much useful information gets trapped within their ecosystem.

Kagi has another feature that can rewrite search results' URLs based on regexes: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/redirects.html . I successfully use it to automatically link to Old Reddit. I guess it can also be used to rewrite user-hostile websites' URLs such as YouTube/Twitter/etc to less hostile frontends such as Invidious or Nitter.

This should be higher up. Now I'm definitely interested!

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by omnimus »

Gareth321 wrote: post #309
tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don’t waste time on this! You’re all doing such good work and I’d much rather not see it wasted on indulging some techno-anarchist nerds

There is a lot of value currently tied up in crypto around the world, with increasing difficulty in using it on products and services. Offering a way to use this value would open additional revenue streams for Kagi. The challenge is in conversion, as many banks do not support the practise, and laws are becoming tougher with regards to crypto payments.

So it would be useless to Kagi…

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by latexr »

mkbkn wrote: post #194
freediver wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We haven't begun work on the Linux version of the browser yet. We will need to significantly expand our team before undertaking the development of a browser for a new platform.

Please make a browser for Linux too. And please make it based on Firefox preferably. Thank you. Lots of love to Kagi, though I'm not a paying user yet but I do love what you folks are doing and want to f*ck Google.

> And please make it based on Firefox preferably.

The macOS browser is based on WebKit. If the team can’t justify the Linux version yet, changing it to a whole different engine (and one which is notoriously hard to embed, by admission of Mozilla itself) is even less likely.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by LAC-Tech »

Terr_ wrote: post #267
LAC-Tech wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

shrugs I don't really feel the need to defend the contents of that list. If the resulting conversations suck, aren't relevant to me, and clog up the HN front page - in they go.

> I don't really feel the need to defend the contents of that list. You were quite willing to promote the specific and lengthy list of disliked-sites to strangers. A sudden switch to fatigue and disinterest does not seem genuine to me.

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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by vluft »

abtinf wrote: post #105

Every time Kagi comes up, a lot of folks say it is too expensive. That it should be unlimited. That if it was just $x per month, then it would be worth it. That they feel uncomfortable about the limits. I will simply say that I cannot imagine going back to being a “user” of a “search provider” over being a paying Kagi customer. It is the single most critical service I worry about losing. If they octupled the price to…

yup. I pay $25/mo happily but would go up to at least $100 without blinking. I do between 1k and 2.5k searches per mo, and also use the summarizer a bit. Compared to DDG (which I was using before), I haven't done a bang to fall back to google in months at least. DDG searches were better on some topics but on average slightly worse than google for me, Kagi is fairly consistently better and being able to block domains is fantastic.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by Avamander »

matsemann wrote: post #252
karaterobot wrote: post #82

Pinterest was certainly the first site I blocked. I've never understood the hate for w3schools. No, it's not MDN, but it's not offensively bad either, and it's been a helpful reference from time to time. If w3schools comes up first in a search, I trust that it probably has the answer to whatever very simple question I must have asked, unlike something like Pinterest, which will just be spam no matter what.

See https://www.w3fools.com/ It's more a historical thing. Over a decade ago they were always on top, with often wrong/misleading/bad practice/insecure/simplified stuff. And lots of people thought of them as some kinde official entity because of their name similarity with W3C / w3.org It's much better now, though. But for lots of old school frontenders the reputation stuck.

It still heavily lacks in quality in some areas, while making it seem like it is well-written. I just recently started blocking it.
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