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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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If the higher up mods clearly don't want to run the show anymore it is natural, just and right to rely those who do.

They are still running the show. Making your subreddit private is, or at least used to be, a perfectly legitimate way of running things. Remember, reddit added that feature to their website.

Yeah I have a feeling that that feature may be going away after this all blows over.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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I feel like the crazies ranting about "white erasure" are making it harder to criticize these race-reboots on the grounds they should be criticized for: laziness. Mediocre products where the selling point is, "we swapped races, give us points," remain mediocre and are unbelievably lazy compared to what we should see... which is new and interesting things with diversity baked in. Unfortunately the hysterical racists a…

It's like calling a song lazy because it uses the same chords as another song. Gender/race-bent remakes are still entirely original works with new scripts and new shots. Even if they were to keep the script the same and make a shot-for-shot remake with new actors and a new crew, that's still 99% new work that's being done. I'd watch a shot-for-shot remake of something like Star Wars with a gender-swapped cast, that s…

I'll go on the record of being in favor of species-swapping Ewoks and Gungans, with Rancors and Gamorreans respectively.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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I wonder what dang thinks about that for HN? I'm not sure how you would properly prompted LLM change moderating standards based on community feedback? Sticky threads for popular topics? Have the understanding of things like local politics or a newly released game in 2023 to be able to separate out bad faith discussion from real? Reddit isn't twitter where the main thing the mods do is remove abusive replies. They're…

Alright, I see. Reddit is not my thing, but I can see how this gets complex (and costly) fast.

My understanding is Reddit the company actually already uses openai's moderation api[1]. Not sure they expose that to anyone (even mods) outside the company. It's not an LLM I don't think though, it's just a set of classifiers to give a probability that something violates various categories of their TOS.

[1] https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/moderation

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

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Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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post #7

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Classic attempt to break a strike. Would mods be employee, this would be illegal (at least in France). This shows how Reddit the company think how the people who work for them for free on Reddit the platform and make its value.

The analogy appears fitting at first glance, but it's crucial to note that the moderators in question aren't simply choosing to abstain from their duties—they're actively hindering others who might wish to take up those responsibilities. I may not be an expert in French law, yet an analogy that comes to mind would be envisioning workers of a grocery store who've decided to go on strike. But rather than merely express…

> they're actively hindering others who might wish to take up those responsibilities.

Isn't that literally exactly what a strike is? No one crosses the picket line if a sufficient majority agreed to undertake the strike?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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post #47
post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

I have a feeling they won't have a hard time finding deranged weirdos who want to mod and will remove anything that could in any way raise an eyebrow of advertisers/payment processors/etc The worst mods for the community will be the best mods for reddit's bottom line. The power-tripping is payment in itself for those types.

>I have a feeling they won't have a hard time finding deranged weirdos who want to mod and will remove anything that could in any way raise an eyebrow of advertisers/payment processors/etc

Remember, "Most of What You Read on the Internet is Written by Insane People". https://np.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9rvroo/most_...>. This also applies to powermods, assuming they're not being paid on the side to push some ideology.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

/r/programming was predicted to remain open during the strike, due to it being modded by Reddit admins. But they also went dark when the top post was collecting examples of chatgpt generated anti-protest comments. https://web.archive.org/web/20230612074029/https://old.reddi...

I always savor the moment when people discover they are being led by morons.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

everyone always says this yet getting a mod to relinquish their position is nearly impossible. Reddit mods desperately want to be mods and will do everything in their power to hold on to it. I know its a stereotype, but for many it is literally the only semblance of power/control they have over their life.

>Reddit mods desperately want to be mods and will do everything in their power to hold on to it. I know its a stereotype, but for many it is literally the only semblance of power/control they have over their life.

Remember, "Most of What You Read on the Internet is Written by Insane People". https://np.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9rvroo/most_...>. This also applies to powermods, assuming they're not being paid on the side to push some ideology.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

Ever since most of these social sites launched their advertising portals, moderation has basically become a practice in how to creatively subvert non-paying posters anyway.

These sites need to ensure they deliver on numbers represented to paid advertisers, and now it's pretty much the only way to make it to top rankings, so how much one is willing to pay determines what's on the front page more than anything else now.

The corporate mods are the ones that prevent harmful and deceptive things from staying at the top of the front page I bet, and they're not likely to be regular mod roles any time soon due to the power wielded.

These massive social media sites all get corrupted after a while and then can never manage to come back. This may well be that point for Reddit.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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post #179

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everyone always says this yet getting a mod to relinquish their position is nearly impossible. Reddit mods desperately want to be mods and will do everything in their power to hold on to it. I know its a stereotype, but for many it is literally the only semblance of power/control they have over their life.

>everyone always says this yet getting a mod to relinquish their position is nearly impossible. There are certainly those, but not sure it is accurate to generalize to mods as a whole.

> There are certainly those, but not sure it is accurate to generalize to mods as a whole.

There are powermods who "moderate" hundreds of subreddits. This is not an exaggeration. Hundreds.

When questioned, they invariably say that they "just watch the incoming queue" or something, and the other mods "do all the work". While likely true in the literal sense (again, hundreds), such answers of course completely evade of the question.

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