With how quickly Reddit and Twitter have destroyed their reputations, it almost feels like it's been intentional to bring down our giant public communication platforms as we enter a new age of misinformation.
Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments
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#312Wow wow, Isn't this the violation of the Europen GDPR privacy laws. If you deletd it then they should actually be deleted, otherwise you are violating the laws.
Information is money and power. No one deletes that.
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#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not my old work I want to read, it's that of others. Comments are a frequently valuable shared annotation system for discussion on a post. Frequently I will search reddit for answers to questions I have and find a useful result in a comment. Other times I want to get a summary of a new topic so I will find an applicable subreddit and sort by top from the last year to get an idea of what is interesting for this c…
Wherein lies the value of seeing that others read your work? As the saying goes, work is done for those who pay for it. When I, like you, write comments on sites like these I am the one paying for it. I derive entertainment value for the cost I am sinking, so I find it to be an acceptable trade, but beyond that small window the entertainment is over and the value of what was produced is gone. To keep it around beyond…
So, you'd delete your old comments because you would rather no one in the world get any kind of value from them since you are not getting any anymore?
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#314Obvious LOL. Stupid question, but did anyone ever /trust/ online social sites to do what they claimed when it came to managing user data?
Who knows. Maybe this will actually make people hesitate to trust everything to a private 'platform'. Maybe this will finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back and maybe even makes people consider the real issue at play ( platforms vs protocols ) and maybe even make appropriate conclusions. I am a dreamer.
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#315More people are finding out that when a site or company says or pretends they have "deleted" something, that's not necessarily the case. Soon more will find out it's not just reddit, that holds on to or even transfers data for all kinds of undisclosed purposes or profit, that people think was gone or forgotten.
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#316Obvious LOL. Stupid question, but did anyone ever /trust/ online social sites to do what they claimed when it came to managing user data?
Especially now that user generated content is AI training gold.
User data has always been the core of freemium apps and “aggregators”: land-grab as many users as you can with a free, great product, so you can own a lot user data. We just didn’t have an obvious use for all that data until now.
Reddit won’t budge on the API pricing because they can make more selling datasets. But if they are smart, they’d rate limit free API access, and charge for the firehose — because then they’d have a user-generated content farm. But you still have the issue that people keep expecting their free apps to be free, not realizing they have been selling their data all along.
Remember FourSquare? They started as a neat way for people to socially compete in “checkins” for a place. They found their profit in selling that location data for business analytics and real estate analysis. The implications extend beyond commercial concerns when datasets like that are purchased by governments to circumvent wiretapping warrant requirements.
Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments
#317Wow wow, Isn't this the violation of the Europen GDPR privacy laws. If you deletd it then they should actually be deleted, otherwise you are violating the laws.
There must be some legal justification for reddit doing this. https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/ Maybe Reddit users don't qualify for "Right to Erasure" because Reddit is still going, their data is being used, they technically didn't revoke "consent" and so on?
That is not how that works.
The right to keep data beyond when a user requests it's deletion is contingent on it being needed for ongoing business requirements like tax and other audit requirements, not for content.
It's not possible under GDPR to automatically license user submitted content via a ToS or something. If you want to keep content beyond when a user clicks a delete button you would need a contract that provides reasonable compensation for licensing that content.
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#318Obvious LOL. Stupid question, but did anyone ever /trust/ online social sites to do what they claimed when it came to managing user data?
i was under the impression they have to because of gdpr
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#319That's a very fundamental abuse of trust
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#320Yea.. this is why you don't delete, because god knows it isn't actually deleted. You edit, and even then it's as crapshoot because it might not be gone. If they store versions of old comments then even editing wouldn't help (which tbh, would make sense in case there were ban-worthy content being hidden via edit).
Plus of course the rest of the internet still likely has your deleted/edited comment. So nothing public is really lost, with any assurance at least heh.