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The day Windows died

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Re: The day Windows died

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Maybe it's because I've been a longtime Mac user, but Windows 11 is the first time Windows has actually felt intuitive and usable to me.

The only hard part was that I had to look up the whole oobe\bypassnro trick when installing so I wouldn't have to set up a Microsoft account. The other adware / junk is probably there of course, but at least it's unobtrusive enough it hasn't bothered me yet.

Re: The day Windows died

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I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…

As someone who replaced a 2014 MacBook Pro with a system 76 oryx pro. The oryx does get warmer and has terrible battery life, but mine is currently 4 years and and working fine. It’s significantly faster than the mac (it’s newer) and can play games (it has a fairly decent video card). You can do unreal development on it. A more apt comparison would be that MacBook with a pangolin amd 5600? machine. It’s much better o…

The M1 MacBook Pro is the best Mac made since the turn of the century.

Re: The day Windows died

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A sad realization is no matter how good hardware gets it will always be bottlenecked by windows.

I used to think their monopoly was a convenient positive since all applications n such would work, but this has proven woefully wrong.

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As someone who replaced a 2014 MacBook Pro with a system 76 oryx pro. The oryx does get warmer and has terrible battery life, but mine is currently 4 years and and working fine. It’s significantly faster than the mac (it’s newer) and can play games (it has a fairly decent video card). You can do unreal development on it. A more apt comparison would be that MacBook with a pangolin amd 5600? machine. It’s much better o…

The M1 MacBook Pro is the best Mac made since the turn of the century.

I switched from Mac to Surface in 2017, and was moderately happy. I bought an M1 air when they came out, it’s essentially a different kind of product.

Surface and M1 Macs aren’t even in the same universe of utility.

Re: The day Windows died

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I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…

I wish more people could have the experience of using Mac and Win11 on a daily basis for real work. I've been developing on Mac/Win11/Linux for 8 years. Win11 vs Mac/Linux is night-vs-day. But you really can't get a sense of how awful windows is without spending serious work time on both Mac & Win. It's not an exaggeration. The simplest things, like remembering settings, switching displays, or setting up hardware, Wi…

I'll do you one better, used Mac for two years, Windows for most of the rest, and a hell of a lot of Linux all throughout. Found the opposite regarding cognitive load with MacOS - it feels like a ten year old operating system full of weird quirks and I got annoyed with its almost-linux-but-not command line. Win11 with WSL2 is my preferred driver, both for hacking and development (primarily Rust/Go not Node so maybe that makes a difference).

Its all subjective though.

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> despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value What extra up front cost? The Macbook Air costs $799 at BestBuy. Do you mean to say a similar quality Windows machine costs less? Only Samsung makes computers that are comparable to the Macbook. This Samsung [2] arguably has a better screen but costs $1450. (There are cheaper Samsungs but they don't have 200% screen resolution.) [1] https://www.bestbuy.…

Hmm, I'd say the Surface line are the direct competitors, and have real nice quality. Better keyboards and a nicer screen form factor 3:2. Was quite a fan of the Surface Book 2, and recently picked up a Laptop Go which is great, for less than a Macbook Air.

Surface Laptop 5 costs $899. Still no sign of "extra up-front cost" of Apple. For me, Surface Laptop isn't even in the running because of poor screen resolution.

The old Surface Book has 3000x2000 resolution which is 200%, but the Surface Laptops have 2256x1504 resolution, which is only 150%. As Steve Jobs said when he introduced iPhone 4, the only resolution that looks good after 100% is 200%. I have tested screens with 150% and 300% resolutions, and they all have display artifacts (such as horizontal 1-pixel horizontal lines appearing to have different widths).

Re: The day Windows died

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Thanks to the user-hostile and inherently insecure nature of Windows, it takes me nearly 16 hours to comprehensively lock down, disinfect, and largely neuter any install of Windows.

I mean, the actual install takes about a half hour, and slightly more if you have to trigger the OOBE to bypass the Microsoft Account requirement (you can create a bootable USB installer that does this automatically). So the other 15½ hours is spent ripping spyware out of the system and forcibly disabling “features” that only enrage people who are used to “traditional” style user interfaces (like a start menu that actually looks like a start menu… thank you, StartIsBack!!). Registry work alone takes nearly two hours, since most changes are security-protected; I cannot just create a reg file and apply it.

I am able to get an install into a place where anyone can use it without getting massively confused by the newer UI garbage, so I am quite proud of those skills, but the time needed to do so is a damning indication of how bad things have gotten.

Re: The day Windows died

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I recently moved back to Linux, perhaps permanently. What kept me from it was not being able to reliably play games, but I can confirm that is no longer a problem. I can't properly describe how happy this makes me.

The issue with Linux for me is how crude and unpolished the desktop environment is compared to windows and Mac. For the average user the desktop is everything and Linux lag way behind on that. Why are there basically only 2 choices on Linux and both have the same boring font?

Have you used Linux recently?

Windows 11 and Windows 10 with the last updates as well are just awful in terms of UI; the UX works more or less alright, but many of the default applications, and specially the settings, control panel, etc. are just an inconsistent mess, awful flat UI without any kind of colors, etc.

Mac is much nicer, nicer fonts, colors, overall look although personally I can't stand the UX too much (specially in terms of window management) apps are usually great tho.

I'd very much rather use something like Kubuntu or Pop_OS, Cinnamon works fine as well, honestly nowadays they just work and are usually better off than Windows by default.

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