I don't know Italian law, but it seems to set a very dangeorus precedent for freedom. What will they decide censor next? Are Italians now subject to the preferences of their government?
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Oh no, Peruvian culture and Canadian culture, for example, are very distinctly different, at least to my Belgian eyes.
and so are Italian and Finnish cultures. But inter-USA cultures are as differnt as local cultures are within a single european country. Would be interesting to have a distance metric for cultures , however
Yeah, the Navajo and Lakota are very noticably culturally distinct from each other, maybe even more so than people from Swabia and people from North Frisia.
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It's the same story everywhere. Every population has a sizeable minority that's far-right, and these people value culture/nation/race, and do not value individuals/freedom. Sometimes they win an election, and then these kind of policies get passed that try to force the people around them to conform to their aesthetic preferences.
It's not only the far right that value tradition and culture. And it's not only the right that tries to force the people around them to conform to their ideas of how the world should be.
it’s not just the far right, but that is a hallmark of the far right. conservatives want to conserve the idealized snapshot of the present or a gilded past.
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yes absolutely, 'Italian' is Florentine right? Same with modern French, which is basically Parisian, modern Spanish essentially Castillian. There is never an neutral language, it is linguistic supremacism one over the other. I absolutely respect Sicilians (and other regional groups) for resisting 'Florentine cultural imperialism'
It's considerably different in Italy since Florence never had any sort of political dominance over Italy. Even though it was very briefly formidable during the Renaissance, its influence has otherwise been mostly cultural only. Because of this, authors and scientists settled on a Koinè based on Florentine during the Renaissance. Until the 19th century, it was barely spoken, even in Tuscany.
I'm not sure that's quite correct given the banking sector (Medici) originates in Florence (Tuscany generally) who had considered political power over the pope (Rome), and hence across the kingdoms/country.
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#316This is very good. Europeans need to be proud of their customs and traditions while also having an eye on the future. We have all been demoralized for years and taught to believe European history is evil and reduced to colonialism (as if Europe was the only colonialist of that time) and very little more.
Europe is beautiful and its diversity in such a small area is beautiful. Be a bit chauvinist I say and conserve the things that define you. Don’t be tricked into becoming globalist, homogenized, generic culture.
Embrace beauty and your cultural aesthetic.
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I'm amazed this is being downvoted. Do people really think that racism only exists in America?
If you ever want to suddenly hear a lot of racism, ask any European about the Romani. I've literally heard many people, after stridently arguing against racism and discrimination, say "oh well gypsies are different, they actually are that bad".
It's debatable if they are actually a race.
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You probably (99.9% certainty) spend too much time online and not enough time outside. twitter != the real world, tv != the real world
The 'outside world' is worse. Europe is aging, it's looking backwards and has very little interest in the future. The left side of the spectrum is stuck in '70s social democracy and believes it can still work despite the demographic collapse (french protests). It is not forward-looking nor has it made a post-boomer vision. The right is stuck in awe of its old glory and tries to revive nationalism (like Mrs Meloni, Br…
> '70s social democracy and believes it can still work
and it can. Bear in mind that these were hard fought social structures that Europe sacrificed generations for in the war, which toppled the greatest empires and ravaged our lands, they came at great expense. It might be easy for a modern American to scoff at the concept of "70's style social democracy", but it is our version of "liberty" which we would protect as much as any American might the bits of the constitution that they like.
Remember that the totality of European GDP rivals US GDP (its in the big top 3 with the US and China), we will make social democracy work because to us, its the lowest acceptable bar. While one half of American news reels will continue to peddle the concept that its impossible because its within their vested interest to do so, it remains a stalwart part of European social expectations.
Perhaps when the US suffers a crippling loss on its lands once more and is forced to face the worst outcomes of the human experience, it might consider building a kinder social state too.
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Yeah, it was shocking here in Stockholm when there were BLM protests in 2020. It's like people are more involved in US politics than their national politics.
There was a protest march in Mumbai against gun violence in the US. That was the only time I ever wanted to punch someone for expressing a political opinion in person.
I think you are underestimating how many people in the upper middle class in Mumbai have some form of family here and are thus impacted by American gun violence.
Indian and American societies are link way deeper than political relations show.