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What is ChatGPT doing and why does it work?

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Re: What is ChatGPT doing and why does it work?

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I still don't see your point behind your first 4 paragraphs. How you decide to treat your fellow humans is up to you. Just as you can decide to view your fellow humans however you want. It's entirely possible to treat them like "humans" while still viewing them as nothing but jumbles of molecules and atoms. So again why does perspective matter here (particularly with ChatGPT being a statistical word generator)? Your…

Ok let me make this more clear. I choose how to view things, yes this is true. But if I choose to treat human beings as jumbles of molecules, most people would consider that viewpoint flawed, inaccurate and slightly insane. Other humans would think that I'm in denial about some really obvious macro effects of configuring molecules in a way such that it forms a human. I can certainly choose to view things this way, bu…

That realistic model it builds of the information you are feeding it, if that’s how we measure its intelligence, then why is the answer it gives sometimes so “smart” yet in other instances where the question is simpler it seems “dumb” (provides an incorrect answer confidently)?

Re: What is ChatGPT doing and why does it work?

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This is so lovely, and my gut says it's spot on (, but that's far from proof. :) The biological machine simulation theory of consciousness has some rigor behind it. I am reminded of the Making Sense podcast episode #178 with Donald Hoffman (author of The Case Against Reality). More succinct overview: https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-evolutionary-argument-aga... I don't know that I am with him on the "reality is a n…

> The biological machine simulation theory of consciousness has some rigor behind it I think we are institutionally biased against the possibility because we don't like the societal implications. If there but for the grace of god go I, and we're all just biological machines running the programs our families and our societies have put into us, being in various situations... yikes, right? If bill gates had been an inne…

I'm absolutely with you here. It's been interesting to watch the philosophical divide take shape between "no, I'm special." and "whelp, there it is, evidence that I'm not special"

Re: What is ChatGPT doing and why does it work?

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What is MLP?

Multi-layer perception, synonym of neural network but perhaps with the additional implication that it is fully connected.

It‘s not a synonym for NNs. It‘s one specific NN architecture, consisting of an input layer, an output layer, and a number of hidden layers in between. It‘s feed-forward and fully-connected, as you said.

Re: What is ChatGPT doing and why does it work?

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Using ChatGPT really helps me understand the concepts better. For example the temperature value: Prompt: Can you answer the following question, once with a temperature of 0, and once with a temperature of 1000? "Is climate change real?" Answer: Sure, here are responses to the question "Is climate change real?" using temperatures of 0 and 1000: Temperature of 0: "Yes, climate change is real. It is a scientifically est…

What does "temperature" mean here though? Are you sure you didn't just ask it to generate two different responses?

Re: What is ChatGPT doing and why does it work?

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The answer to this is: "we don't really know as its a very complex function automatically discovered by means of slow gradient descent, and we're still finding out" Here are some of the fun things we've found out so far: - GPT style language models try to build a model of the world: https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.13382 - GPT style language models end up internally implementing a mini "neural network training algorithm" (…

Finally I'm tired of people saying it's just a probabilistic word generator and downplaying everything as if they know. If you said something along these lines before... then these papers show that you're not fully grasping the situation here. There are clearly different angles of interpreting what these models are actually doing but people are stubbornly refusing to believe it's anything more then just statistical w…

It really depends on your definition of statistics.

For example, quantum physics is pretty much statistics, but how those statistics are used give rise to the explanation of the physical world, because of the complex interaction patterns.

To say that GPT is generating the next likely word sounds simplistic on the surface. It makes it seem like the model resets itself after generating each token, just looking at information before. And when running the model, thats exactly what it does, but thats just the algorithm part. There is a lot more information in GPT then it seems, its just compressed.

Just like cellular automata, universal turing machines, or differential equations describing chaotic behavior, there is a concept of emergence of complex patterns from very simple rules. When GPT generates the next word, its effectively changing its internal state because that word is now in consideration for the next token. And this process repeats itself for consecutive words. But this process is deterministic, and repeatable (you can replace the random process of temperature parameter affecting word selection with a pseudorandom sequence generated by a formula and achieve the same effect)

So just like the autoencoder/decoder networks effectively compress images into much smaller arrays, GPT compresses not only textual information, but sequences of states. There is quite a bit more, a whole shitload more in fact, information in the GPT model than just statistical distribution of the next likely word. And if you were to decompress this information fully, it be roughly the equivalent of having and extremely large lookup table of every possible question and its responses that you could ask it.

So all it is is just a very effective, and quite impressive at that, search.

And its both significant and insignificant. Significant, because after all, AI is equivalent to compression. Philosophically speaking, the turning point would be the ability to compress a good portion of our known reality in a similar way, then ask it questions, to which it would generate answers that mankind was not able to answer, because mankind hasn't bothered to interpolate/develop on its knowledge tree in that area. However its also insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Imagine moving beyond lookup tables. For example, if I ask an AI a question "A man enters a bathroom, which stall does he choose?", an AI should be able to then ask me back specific questions that are needed for to answer the question. Go ahead and try to figure out the architecture data set for that task.

Re: What is ChatGPT doing and why does it work?

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The easiest way for ChatGPT to generate good output is to plain understand it. Given the vast amount of input data fed into it, it has no choice, but to start reducing the input into fundamental rules which is basically what understanding is. Understanding is a form of compression. More efficient for a neural network to understand a concept than memorize permutations. Same with statistics and markov chains, people fo…

I would say information is a form of compression. You observe reality, then compress what you see as information and pass it to another observer. Understanding is the ability to compress and decompress information. Decompressed information can become action or emotion.

Re: What is ChatGPT doing and why does it work?

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The answer to this is: "we don't really know as its a very complex function automatically discovered by means of slow gradient descent, and we're still finding out" Here are some of the fun things we've found out so far: - GPT style language models try to build a model of the world: https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.13382 - GPT style language models end up internally implementing a mini "neural network training algorithm" (…

Finally I'm tired of people saying it's just a probabilistic word generator and downplaying everything as if they know. If you said something along these lines before... then these papers show that you're not fully grasping the situation here. There are clearly different angles of interpreting what these models are actually doing but people are stubbornly refusing to believe it's anything more then just statistical w…

Research papers turned into a mouth tape isn’t cool either. The commenter above noted that it’s not specifically a game model that emerged in an LLM in that paper, but 64 additional networks that somehow represent each tile from values of all weights/activations of an LLM. Which is somewhat weaker than the initial claim, slightly less obvious.

People nowadays use papers as a means to shut someone up with a summary, because chances are low they’re gonna read beyond it. And summaries tend to be headline-y for obvious reasons.

The rest of your comment falls under this shadow, so please tell how an average person should evaluate this thread. Personally I’m all for education on this topic, but different sorts of people’s opinions and meanings, from diversely delusional to diversely knowledgeable^ with strings attached, do not help with it.

Resembles LLMs themselves who cannot just answer “I don’t know”. We’d rather say that if we really don’t, imo, than claiming tipping points and history turns. We did that with fusion, bitcoin, self-driving and many other things that we’ve lost in the background noise.

^ assuming yours on this side by default, no quip intended

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