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Apple Silicon benefits from full vertical integration and not having to worry about third parties and their particular needs for the same silicon.
What about Samsung Exynos?
Are they gonna put it in the Galaxy S23?
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Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra
#312Everyone in this thread is arguing about operating systems and their mobile OS preference... why? The interesting point here, which is corroborated by different sources than just TFA, is that Apple's silicon is 1-2 generations ahead of everyone else. Whether you like iPhone or Android, I think we should all agree that's a bad situation for the world to be in. Apple's advantage in mobile CPUs is coming at a time when…
I know we are typically against monopolies (pls don’t flame me) but why should we care if it’s not something that’s actually important like food/water/medicine? I don’t see the sense when the government tries to break up a monopoly like Google for being too good at selling online ads, or likewise worrying about some company dominating augmented reality chips. I’d be more interested in making sure that such technology…
> I know we are typically against monopolie
HN is not against monopolies. Hacker News ardently cheers on browser and adtech monopolies.
HN is against anything that limits surveillance capitalism.
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> USB-C to follow most likely Only because Apple was forced to by an EU ruling. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they restrict sales of USB-C phones to EU-only, out of spite.
Are you going to volunteer to be the one to explain to my 60 and 70 year old relatives why they need to get all new cables for their phones?
Surely someone from their neighborhood have some spare usb-c cables lying around?
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Apple’s secret sauce is their long-term focus, colored strongly by their many awful experiences being held hostage by CPU manufacturers. They’ve re-architected their entire software stack on multiple occasions to deal with manufacturing partners who could no longer keep up. For example, it was a big deal when they moved from IBM/Motorola to Intel, and Macs started getting much faster right away. A decade later and In…
> Apple’s secret sauce is their long-term focus, colored strongly by their many awful experiences being held hostage by CPU manufacturers. This is the key point. There used to be a lot of chip makers and phone vendors in the Android space (hell, even Sony had their own processors for their early phones), both ARM and the odd non-ARM effort. The way that the Android market has collapsed down to essentially "Qualcomm a…
Apple tried and failed to make a chipset to replace Qualcomm didn't they?
I'd love to see them try again. And I feel like that's an area where their particular culture (of looking at vendors that make them resentful and trying to do something about it) might even put them in a place where they're willing to sell those chips or designs to other carriers because fuck Qualcomm.
Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra
#315Everyone in this thread is arguing about operating systems and their mobile OS preference... why? The interesting point here, which is corroborated by different sources than just TFA, is that Apple's silicon is 1-2 generations ahead of everyone else. Whether you like iPhone or Android, I think we should all agree that's a bad situation for the world to be in. Apple's advantage in mobile CPUs is coming at a time when…
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Once upon a time, there were around a dozen fabs competing to make high-end semiconductors. Now it's just TSMC (who sell cutting-edge capacity exclusively to Apple) with Samsung's fabs playing catch-up. And Intel... are you okay back there, Intel? There's isn't much hope on the horizon for more competition when it costs hundreds of billions to build a new next-gen fab, there's a significant chance of process shrinks…
That's when governments should step in and invest in alternatives. The TSMC quasi-monopoly is any country national security risk, and that it is irresponsible for most western nations to let the industry be run by a single foreign player. If I'm not wrong, TSMC captures by itself 60% of the world's semiconductor market?
Depends on your context. The US is more or less forcing (via political & economic pressure) TSMC to build inside the US. If anything were to happen in terms of national security (with regard primarily to China invading Taiwan), the US can stand up a US-TSMC entity in collaboration with TSMC Taiwan (or without them entirely), declare the Taiwan entity void as far as the US is concerned, claim all the assets globally as being owned by the US entity and go right on about its business. And it doesn't matter whether anyone else likes it or not, given the context that will be unfolding at that time. Ideally also shift all critical IP and talent out of Taiwan and into the US, to the extent possible, while the chaos is unfolding. It'd just be a new Operation Paperclip.
If TSMC actually goes forward with its plans to build inside the US to the extent it's supposed to, it's no longer fully a foreigner player. Realistically it's a hybridization of TSMC for what-if scenarios. Once they do it, the US will not let them return to the way things were before.
Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra
#317Everyone in this thread is arguing about operating systems and their mobile OS preference... why? The interesting point here, which is corroborated by different sources than just TFA, is that Apple's silicon is 1-2 generations ahead of everyone else. Whether you like iPhone or Android, I think we should all agree that's a bad situation for the world to be in. Apple's advantage in mobile CPUs is coming at a time when…
> Everyone in this thread is arguing about operating systems and their mobile OS preference... why? It's like football game for geeks, it's not a big deal. It's fun as long as you don't take it too seriously. On a more serious note, I prefer Apple's style of doing things and pray to the gods Android doesn't obliterate Apple's OS. Just last week I got my hands on a Amazon Fire TV, it was cool until the AirScreen app s…
Don't confuse Amazon "Fire" performance with a "real" Android device. Amazon is subpar in my experience, and is several (many) generations behind.
>Amazon began referring to the Android derivative as Fire OS with its third iteration of Fire tablets. Unlike previous Fire models, whose operating system was described as "based on" Android, Fire OS 3.0 was described as "compatible with" Android.
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#318I do think that phones are in a sorry place - but this isn't exactly why. The industry is still based on the concept of a new model every year, but it has been years since there were obvious & universal reasons to get a new model. The striking thing about this fact isn't that Apple is "ahead" - it's that even though Apple has basically lapped the competition on a technical level it doesn't matter much.
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#319> Despite being over 6% faster for single-core performance, the iPhone 12 is 15.64% slower for multi-core performance compared to the Galaxy S23 Ultra, with scores of 3867 vs 4584.
Sounds a bit like intel vs amd.
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> 0. does it have a stylus / pen? All modern touch screen phones are compatible with a stylus. I'm sure it would be harder to find one that isn't. The accuracy may not be the best on budget models. Unless you mean _is a stylus / pen included with the phone_?
>All modern touch screen phones are compatible with a stylus. Opinion here, but capacitive styluses suck. I wouldn't bother with a stylus unless it was something like Wacom or Apple Pencil tech.
Samsung note has a proper stylus. It's similar to the Wacom variety.