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Everybody seems up in arms about this situation, but I find the whole thing hilarious. After half a decade of AI hype without many uses in the wild, we finally live at a point in history where "AI-generated Jerry Seinfeld makes transphobic joke, gets cancelled" is not an Onion headline.
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Being successful despite people calling you some vile shit because of who you are and what you believe absolves the people calling you vile shit from any responsibility. Yes, indeed.
So if I understand you correctly, what you're really pissed off about is that no one will pay you money to make transphobic statements?
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It's weird to talk about missing an element of human empathy regarding the topic of trans individuals, whose very existence is unacceptable to a broad swath of the population. 40% of transgender people have attempted suicide. The public dialogue around trans lives is one of very little empathy, respect, or civility. People are on this thread casually debating whether this joke "went to far" or not, while the people w…
Most of humanity's best art, literature, music, and comedy is about people experiencing trauma. Being able to joke amidst suffering is the very thing that makes us human. It's also a critical part of empathy itself.
Humor being about trauma is kind of a vague categorization. It's probably more insightful to drill down more specifically.
Uncharacteristically off-topic comment from me, I guess, but when do humans get to a point where we no longer have to appeal to the lowest common denominator? How are our relationships supposed to improve if we dub anything that makes us uncomfortable as "taboo" and steer clear of it? I get that on the Internet there is a lot of anonymity (though less than there used to be) that folks tend to abuse, but at the same t…
Humans get to not appeal to the lowest common denominator when they aren't in groups numbering in the billions.
(... this is a fancy way of saying "There's a reason the jokes you'll tell your friends in the privacy of your own home you might not tell a stranger on the street").
Everybody seems up in arms about this situation, but I find the whole thing hilarious. After half a decade of AI hype without many uses in the wild, we finally live at a point in history where "AI-generated Jerry Seinfeld makes transphobic joke, gets cancelled" is not an Onion headline.
tay wasn't a failure as an AI chatbot, she was probably 5-10 years ahead of her time actually. Beautifully responsive to her users and learning.
Unlike chatGPT there wasn't the realization that the Panther Moderns already exist and safeguards needed to be put in place...
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> You can see worse on an anonymous Twitter feed. Your logical fallacy is: whataboutism. Just because you've seen worse doesn't make this incident right.
But there's nothing wrong with this clip? It's basically just saying trans/gay jokes aren't funny.
Was this joke punishable? Not by itself. However, it is strongly indicative that the safety nets required for that type of content to respect the TOS are not working properly.
If you have watched any amount of this stream at all, you know that:
a) It doesn't do self-discriminating humour. b) It's funny because it's really bad at delivering joke.
For someone familiar with the content, it's a lot likelier that this was a terribly delivered offensive joke than anything else. Which means that more such content is coming, and there is no way to tell the "author" to cool it.
Put another way: If you are Carrot Top's promoter and he drops a Jimmy Carr joke in the middle of a set out of nowhere, taking a break from touring might be a good idea.
Uncharacteristically off-topic comment from me, I guess, but when do humans get to a point where we no longer have to appeal to the lowest common denominator? How are our relationships supposed to improve if we dub anything that makes us uncomfortable as "taboo" and steer clear of it? I get that on the Internet there is a lot of anonymity (though less than there used to be) that folks tend to abuse, but at the same t…
It's weird to talk about missing an element of human empathy regarding the topic of trans individuals, whose very existence is unacceptable to a broad swath of the population. 40% of transgender people have attempted suicide. The public dialogue around trans lives is one of very little empathy, respect, or civility. People are on this thread casually debating whether this joke "went to far" or not, while the people w…
I certainly won't deny that trans people go through a lot, but stuff like this is honestly getting hard to take seriously. It's commonly repeated but going on about their "existence" itself being denied just sounds over dramatic. I don't think trans people are any worse off than other marginalized groups but for some reason, I'm finding they receive the fiercest protections.
In fact, within my own friend group, I'm pretty sure a trans joke would have far more immediate social implications now than even a joke about the holocaust. It's so over the top at this point my empathy is diminishing.
> Would it have been OK to make a joke about 9/11 victims while they were still digging people out of the wreckage? What if that joke was light-hearted, or the comedian was just making fun of people who tell those jokes?
It would have been poor taste but I don't think you would have received any bans from social medial for making one, that's a pretty new phenomenon.
Explanation from their Discord (more info/links below) “Earlier tonight, we started having an outage using OpenAI’s GPT-3 Davinci model, which caused the show to exhibit errant behaviors (you may have seen empty rooms cycling through). OpenAI has a less sophisticated model, Curie, that was the predecessor to Davinci. When davinci started failing, we switched over to Curie to try to keep the show running without any d…
A seemingly innocuous engineering change led to some drastic consequences. Imagine the other more critical production applications who have made the same reasonable engineering decision.
Especially considering this is the description for the model they left:
> higher quality, longer output and better instruction-following
and this is what they moved to:
> Very capable, but faster and lower cost than Davinci.
If nothing else, the adage 'you get what you pay for' works.
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As a society we shouldn't tolerate the intolerant, those who seek every excuse to vilify and target minorities. FYI, certain prominent political leaders said they’d outlaw certain minorities and make the lives of people living hell. Personally i am not fond of seeing friends and family suffer at the hand of fascists. @Dang, since when is paraphrasing Popper and restating the statements of people without a sliver of m…
The problem I'm seeing is that with some regularity, people are being designated as "intolerant" for simply asking questions, deviating slightly from the most up-to-date acceptable opinion, or just not keeping up with what is the correct opinion to have now. Applying nuance and assuming that others _might_ have good intentions isn't really in vogue.
Misrepresenting positions and arguments to a rabid “fanbase” is not asking questions.
It’s time the charades stop and the fascists drop the pretences, oh wait their supreme leader has PUBLICLY said he will ensure that trans people will be outlawed.
No amount of science and evidence is ever enough for these people either.
Transsexualism is not a new thing and to claim it is is either wilfully ignorant when you act as a host and don’t do due diligence, or maliciously intentional.
I am not asking people to have correct opinions, i am asking that they listen to those who did the science and the research, i am asking that they talk to actual trans people about their experiences.
Perhaps asking for some empathy (not sympathy) as a fellow human is already too much.