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Effective altruism has a sexual harassment problem, women say

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Re: Effective altruism has a sexual harassment problem, women say

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It's a movement invented as yet another way for rich, wealthy, and/or privileged people to not just feel better about themselves for being so but for being destined to be so for the supposed benefit of others. It isn't surprising to me in the least thay it is rife with other sociopathic behavior.

Re: Effective altruism has a sexual harassment problem, women say

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> I intentionally drifted away from that group around that time, so I don’t know what happened to them This isn't a convincing story that they were wrong if you don't actually know what happened to them. It just looks like you're showing a bit of that hubris yourself, in assuming they went off a cliff.

OP disassociate with them when issues caught up with them. Even if their fixed their lifes after, this point stands.

It does not, not if they succeeded and ended up better off than if they haven't started using in the first place.

Re: Effective altruism has a sexual harassment problem, women say

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This is a problem as old as human beings. People want sex. Sex happens most for those who are considered most socially valuable (for men anyway). People look for socially popular things, select those that are accessible and adopt them to signal virtue and social value, to try and increase the likelihood they will appear as more sexually valuable. However, this is risky. Discovery of deception of social value causes a…

As long as the person has a nice appearance no one will worry about sincerity of intentions.

Re: Effective altruism has a sexual harassment problem, women say

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I distinctly remember signing up to give £5 a month to a charity on the condition that if they ever contacted me again asking me for more money I'd immediately cancel my Direct Debit. They didn't even get their second payment.

Honestly, the £5 a month you were giving them is probably less than the cost of special casing you in their largely automated donor marketing systems so this is a net win to both of you.

And yet it's worth it for them to have people canvassing door-to-door for those £5 a month donations with a EDIT: Unless they literally don't care about the base rate donators at all. They only exist so that some of them will get converted into higher rate donators later.

Re: Effective altruism has a sexual harassment problem, women say

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"A pharmacist's approval" is a prescription, just one that happens to be written by the same person who fills it. So no, not OTC, which specifically refers to medications you can get without a prescription.

I suspect this is location specific though. In the UK my migraine medication was available over the counter, I still had to have a discussion with the pharmacist every time I bought it. Conversely when ever I've needed an actual prescription medication, in an emergency or whatever, that has always had to go through my doctor to get the prescription sorted.

/me also a brit.

My go-to pain-relief used to be a product called Codis, which was soluble aspirin+codeine. It used to be available OTC, until about 8 years ago, then it disappeared. You can still buy paracetamol+codeine OTC ("Paracodol?). My understanding is that aspirin causes vasodilation, which causes more rapid absorption of codeine. Supposedly that's why Codis worked better than Paracodol.

I don't know why they took it off the shelves. There was no announcement; it just disappeared.

Codis was effective for both migraines and period pains, as reported to me (I'm not a woman, and I don't suffer from migraines).

Re: Effective altruism has a sexual harassment problem, women say

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This sounds very familiar. The Netherlands is the only country in the world where alcohol consumption correlates positively with education level, and thus alcoholism and associated ills. It's nearly impossible to find people in these circles that think of alcohol as something to be careful with. Alcoholism only happens to 'others'.

> The Netherlands is the only country in the world where alcohol consumption correlates positively with education level I'm reasonably sure this isn't true. It is also the case in the UK and the US. It is presumably also the case for many other countries, since it is hard to imagine what would make the UK, the US, and the Netherlands somehow unique in the world. UK: "Higher educational attainment is associated with i…

> alcohol consumption correlates positively with education level

Not too surprising; drinking a lot, frequently, is expensive. High education level correlates with high income. It's cheaper to get wasted on almost any illegal drug than it is with alcohol.

Re: Effective altruism has a sexual harassment problem, women say

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I suspect this is location specific though. In the UK my migraine medication was available over the counter, I still had to have a discussion with the pharmacist every time I bought it. Conversely when ever I've needed an actual prescription medication, in an emergency or whatever, that has always had to go through my doctor to get the prescription sorted.

/me also a brit. My go-to pain-relief used to be a product called Codis, which was soluble aspirin+codeine. It used to be available OTC, until about 8 years ago, then it disappeared. You can still buy paracetamol+codeine OTC ("Paracodol?). My understanding is that aspirin causes vasodilation, which causes more rapid absorption of codeine. Supposedly that's why Codis worked better than Paracodol. I don't know why they…

This was migraleve it didn't have any painkilling element in the first tablet (it was 2 parts) not much point anyway as by that point I was throwing up.

Re: Effective altruism has a sexual harassment problem, women say

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OP disassociate with them when issues caught up with them. Even if their fixed their lifes after, this point stands.

It does not, not if they succeeded and ended up better off than if they haven't started using in the first place.

You genuinely believe that this had potential to happen after the issues related to drugs started to show up? Cause it is very very unlikely.

Re: Effective altruism has a sexual harassment problem, women say

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> seem to jive jibe. yes, words change and evolve, but I only mention it because to jive has another meaning, to BS somebody. I agree with your overall point about "I won't give to groups who tell me they need money" is a pretty high bar to set. However, GP's comment is in keeping with something I've come to think, which is organizations will re-form themselves around your donations (I give large amounts because I ca…

>jibe Or gibe. The problem is jibe has negative connotations, whereas 'to jive with' seems to me to be a metaphor to works, (I assume it's used in the dancing sense?). I don't know of the meaning of the phrase has changed somewhat, 'to jibe with' suggests a sarcastic undertone to me, but in modern usage, no sarcasm is intended so maybe jive is the correct term for the current usage of the term 'to jX with'

Jibing is a nautical term, referring to a sailing boat turning through the wind so that the boom flips from one side of the boat to the other.

I have no idea how it acquired the perjorative meaning of making unpleasant remarks.

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