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Re: Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address

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Post by fmisle »

zhynn wrote: post #305
blakewatson wrote: post #90

You get a surprising amount of functionality for $20. I just got an account and I've been poking around for about an hour. I'm seriously impressed. You get: - a webpage - DNS - email forwarding - a statuslog - url shortener - a pastebin - a weblog - an optional Mastodon account - optional IRC/Discord - and probably some more stuff I missed And all of this stuff is much more configurable than it would typically be on…

I love the service, I hate the name. It's got too much cute/whimsy for my taste, and it just makes me feel like the "hello fellow teenagers" guy. If they had the same everything but it was a "short and easy to spell/pronounce" domain service, I would 100% go for it. It doesn't have to be entirely boring, but less... cute. Also I think that meme language has a high risk of drifting into the cringe zone, and then that…

You can use your own domain, you're not tied to omg.lol

Re: Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address

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Post by andrecarini »

dcow wrote: post #301
andrecarini wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the main difference is a proper domain from a major registrar grants you ownership rights that you don't get from leased subdomains like OP's (mainly the ability to keep the domain even if the registrar goes out of business; and moving the domain between registrars).

What do you mean “ownership rights”?

If you buy a gTLD domain through a registrar, your ownership of the domain is bound by the rules established by ICANN [1][2]. If you purchase an eTLD+1 [3] subdomain from omg.lol (as part of the offered services) you're not covered by [1][2] but instead by [4, Section 1.5 part B, Section 3.2 part A].

What this means is OP can arbitrarily shutdown their offering at their sole discretion and, as a result, you'll lose access to the eTLD+1 you've purchased (domain, email, all gone). However, if you purchase a gTLD domain through an ICANN accredited registrar, the registrar can't unilaterally do the same (even if the registrar implodes, you still own the domain and you can move it elsewhere).

[1] ICANN Registrants' Benefits and Responsibilities: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/benefits-2013-09-16-en

[2] ICANN Registrar Compliance Program: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registrar-2012-02-25-e...

[3] https://jfhr.me/what-is-an-etld-+-1/

[4] Neatnik LLC (the company behind omg.lol): https://home.omg.lol/info/legal

Re: Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address

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Post by JonathonW »

andrecarini wrote: post #284
zupa-hu wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which in the end is true for domains as well. Someone decides to sell subdomains of X, weather X is com or omg.lol. Com could be free as well. The only real difference is choice. Or to put it differently, you say it doesnt need registration. Well, it does. They require it. So what.

I think the main difference is a proper domain from a major registrar grants you ownership rights that you don't get from leased subdomains like OP's (mainly the ability to keep the domain even if the registrar goes out of business; and moving the domain between registrars).

You can move between registrars, but the registrar's not the one that you're leasing the domain from; they're just a reseller.

The entity that you're actually leasing the domain from is the registry operator-- such as Verisign for .com or PIR for .org. And, yes, it's still a lease relationship-- while there are some ICANN-mandated consumer protections around your "purchase" of a domain, if you stop paying your annual renewal (or run out of whatever amount of time you've prepaid), that domain isn't yours any more.

Omg.lol is operating the same way (albeit not under ICANN oversight, as they're not running a gTLD); they've just cut out the middleman and are leasing subdomains directly rather than via third-party registrars.

Re: Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address

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Post by theschmed »

yeldarb wrote: post #65

Bought one for my kiddo. He’s just a baby but still needs a unique email for me to create him accounts (eg frequent flyer, global entry) and I had previously been using a +variant on my gmail. Having a vanity email alias seems more fun.

I saw the same need, but I've actually purchased domains for all of my children, so that when they get older, I can transfer ownership to them.

10-18 years is a long time window, so I felt that purchasing a domain was more appropriate than setting up an address at a service which may or may not still be available in decades.

Thank goodness for services like Purelymail[1] and Forward Email[2] that offer free or cheap forwarding from various domains!

[1]: https://purelymail.com/

[2]: https://forwardemail.net/

Re: Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address

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Post by twinwing »

avree wrote: post #300
Dwedit wrote: post #292

When you get an email address from someone, you need assurance that they'll be around in 5+ years. Hotmail and Gmail aren't going anywhere.

When Gmail launched, people were writing this exact same comment about how Yahoo and Hotmail aren't going anywhere.

Anecdata: My Yahoo and Hotmail address are still up and running.

Re: Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address

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Post by andrecarini »

JonathonW wrote: post #313
andrecarini wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the main difference is a proper domain from a major registrar grants you ownership rights that you don't get from leased subdomains like OP's (mainly the ability to keep the domain even if the registrar goes out of business; and moving the domain between registrars).

You can move between registrars, but the registrar's not the one that you're leasing the domain from; they're just a reseller. The entity that you're actually leasing the domain from is the registry operator-- such as Verisign for .com or PIR for .org. And, yes, it's still a lease relationship-- while there are some ICANN-mandated consumer protections around your "purchase" of a domain, if you stop paying your annual…

> Omg.lol is operating the same way

Not entirely true; I'd argue it's closer to subleasing a part of the property they're currently leasing from an ICANN accredited registrar.

> they've just cut out the middleman

Quite the opposite! They've just introduced themselves as yet another middleman on top of the already existing middleman (there's still a value proposition to this, but it's not the same).

TL;DR: subtenant rights ⊈ tenant rights

Re: Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address

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Post by conductr »

lucasyvas wrote: post #71

I expected to hate this and walked away thinking it was a pretty ok idea. Good job! The idea of curating alternate services together and offering it as a product feels novel - does anyone else do this? I'd love to see hosting offered for curated open source services that are interoperable. Sort of like all those WordPress hosts of yore (and today!). Edit: omg.lol, is it AOL?? :D Edit 2: The price is even the same! $1…

> does anyone else do this?

maybe Zoho for business apps?

Re: Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address

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Post by seti0Cha »

stkdump wrote: post #233
gnarbarian wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to notice anything these days without getting in trouble.

How are you in trouble?

"says something about you" is a warning shot for a potential shaming campaign. The expected reaction is for the warned party to backpedal to avoid having their defects loudly discussed. You can see it play out in other responses, wherein terms like "decent people" and "old, dead narrative" are deployed. In other words, trouble in the same sense that those subjected to "microaggressions" have trouble.
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