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Elon: Let Me Help You Speed Run the Content Moderation Learning Curve

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Re: Elon: Let Me Help You Speed Run the Content Moderation Learning Curve

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Defcon levels are about preparing for defense not attack. I think your bias is showing.

"death" con 3 Can't understand how you can be racing to explain and apologize that.

So because he said death con (instead of DEFCON), it had some secret meaning that meant something entirely different and you have proof of this where? I am no fan of Kanye, but people see what they want to see. Maybe he was making some trope about the holocaust, but even holocaust denial isn't illegal in the US.

Re: Elon: Let Me Help You Speed Run the Content Moderation Learning Curve

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What's the point in getting someone who already agrees to listen? You want to find those willing to listen that don't agree. I don't want to reinforce my ego that I have people agreeing with me, I could get plenty of that if I wanted, I want those disagreeing and willing to listen to see the other side. I want to see what's actually a convincing argument that's changing opinion. But hey, everyone's so used to the lik…

Have you read Karl Popper's "The Paradox of Tolerance?" Here's a link: https://twitter.com/iamlejo/status/1331963359529414662/photo...

Have you? Comic books don't count.

"if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.—In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols."

The measure of intolerance is basically whoever tries censorship and violence first. Ironically they often justify it with one or two sentences cherry-picked from Popper.

Re: Elon: Let Me Help You Speed Run the Content Moderation Learning Curve

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Should we be burning school books and cancelling movies about the Holocaust because they have swastikas? Like it or not it is free speech and shouldn't be banned.

I'd stand against a government doing that. If an individual book owner decides to have a backyard barbecue of all their pro-Nazi propaganda or an individual theater owner doesn't feel comfortable running Jojo Rabbit, that's up to them.

Yes, but when they claim to support free speech and then turn around and do the opposite it is best to call them out on it. The reason for my hyperbole response was because here we are talking about Twitter and free speech, and some people are avidly in support of banning things and people they don't like.

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That isn't true in common parlance.

It literally stands for defense readiness condition

And yet humans aren't computers, and the meaning of phrases in popular culture isn't always determined by strict literal definition.

Most people would interpret the phrase "I’m a bit sleepy tonight but when I wake up I’m going (def) con 3 On JEWISH PEOPLE" to mean preparing to go to war or enter into conflict against, not preparing to defend against an attack from, jewish people.

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Adding a tiny Gladwell: I've been using Twitter since 2007 and pretty much daily for probably 10 years and same, never accidentally encountered "unfiltered hardcore porn" clicking on trends or pretty much anything.

As time goes on, it turns out that pre-Elon Twitter is becoming more and more of a disaster. Now it turns out it was full of porn, and especially child porn which previous leaders didn't care about. Also instead of a company struggling to be consistently profitable it was actually a complete dumpster fire that was doomed to fail in the near future if not for the timely intervention

I think we'll find out it certainly wasn't worth 40 billion. No idea if Musk even cares but I doubt he'll recoup his investment.

Re: Elon: Let Me Help You Speed Run the Content Moderation Learning Curve

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I'd stand against a government doing that. If an individual book owner decides to have a backyard barbecue of all their pro-Nazi propaganda or an individual theater owner doesn't feel comfortable running Jojo Rabbit, that's up to them.

Yes, but when they claim to support free speech and then turn around and do the opposite it is best to call them out on it. The reason for my hyperbole response was because here we are talking about Twitter and free speech, and some people are avidly in support of banning things and people they don't like.

Within the law, Twitter is well within their rights to ban things and people Musk doesn't like.

Re: Elon: Let Me Help You Speed Run the Content Moderation Learning Curve

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"death" con 3 Can't understand how you can be racing to explain and apologize that.

So because he said death con (instead of DEFCON), it had some secret meaning that meant something entirely different and you have proof of this where? I am no fan of Kanye, but people see what they want to see. Maybe he was making some trope about the holocaust, but even holocaust denial isn't illegal in the US.

This is fucking ridiculous. There's no subjectivity here, and people don't commonly confuse those terms. You're just making shit up.

Re: Elon: Let Me Help You Speed Run the Content Moderation Learning Curve

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The swastiska has had a very long history, before the Nazis misused it for their purpose. wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika So when kayne used it, of course he referred to the Nazi symbol and just wanted attention and strongly hint at his antisemitism. But other people can mean something very different: "In several major Indo-European religions, the swastika symbolises lightning bolts, representing the thunder god and the…

I'm aware, I'm sure most people are because this tidbit is always brought up when the swastika is discussed. The context is clear all around though

Stanning for the swastika is one of the weirdest modern internet fetishes.

Re: Elon: Let Me Help You Speed Run the Content Moderation Learning Curve

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this post was good.

i'd like to propose the tldr; version:

  Implement the Santa Clara Principles. Cheers.

  https://santaclaraprinciples.org/

interesting that this article got posted to HN 4 times in total, and only the most recent one - this one - got any real traction. karma of OP on this one is a bazillion compared to the other posters.
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