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What are you building?

It started as an AI-powered MS paint for my son. But after demoing it to a few coworkers, it morphed into a bit more than that. Now it’s more of a storybook creator that young kids can use to generate their own stories. Not looking to monetize at all. But inference is expensive. So might have something to cover costs. Some backstory: When I was growing up in the early 90s, my dad took me into his office over the week…

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Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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The problem is not that people aren't owning ideas hard enough, ideas shouldn't be ownable in this way, the problem is that we've created a system that's obsessed with scarcity and collecting rents. Being able to own and trade ideas a la copyright/patents helps people who can buy copyrights and patents stifle creativity more than it helps artists gather reward for their creation (though it does both). Human endeavor…

When I was younger, I also thought that way. I also felt that being artist has nothing to with money: a true artist will always create out of their internal need, not for money. Then came the brutal reality: creating high-quality artwork needs time. Some can be created after work, but not that much. Some forms of art require expensive instruments. Some, like filmmaking, require collaboration and coordination of many…

The restrictions on creating art are the product of the society you live in, which means they are the product of capitalism if you live in a capitalist society. The way society is organised determines the cost of people's time, the cost of the tools, and the cost of the materials.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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The problem is not that people aren't owning ideas hard enough, ideas shouldn't be ownable in this way, the problem is that we've created a system that's obsessed with scarcity and collecting rents. Being able to own and trade ideas a la copyright/patents helps people who can buy copyrights and patents stifle creativity more than it helps artists gather reward for their creation (though it does both). Human endeavor…

When I was younger, I also thought that way. I also felt that being artist has nothing to with money: a true artist will always create out of their internal need, not for money. Then came the brutal reality: creating high-quality artwork needs time. Some can be created after work, but not that much. Some forms of art require expensive instruments. Some, like filmmaking, require collaboration and coordination of many…

It's almost like "capitalism" isn't something that needs to be created and forced upon people, it's just the way a world where energy isn't free and can not be created from thin air works. Capitalism is just that, the realization that there's no free lunches and no UBIs are possible without some serious unintended consequences. I pirate everything I consume, but I would never be such an hypocrite to say that all copyright must be abolished.

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I am a solo dev working on a creative content creation app to leverage the latest developments in AI. Demoing even the v1 of stable diffusion to the non-technical general users blows them away completely. Now that v2 is here, it’s clear we’re not able to keep pace in developing products to take advantage of it. The general public still is blown away by autosuggest in mobile OS keyboards. Very few really know how far…

I'm in a kind of same boat. I think indie games are the way to show true potential of SD. Hence, I'm working on http://diffudle.com/ which is a mix of Wheel Of Fortune + Stable Diffusion + Wordle. I Can't figure it out but feels to me like its lacking something.

Wow, that's really cool actually, have to bookmark it! One feature I would add would be going back through the previously shown images, that would make it easier to guess what they have in common. Also, larger images would look nicer, but I guess that would drive the costs up?

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The future is probably models trained almost exclusively on porn.

Porn has driven many tech advances. I predict that models trained on specific porn genres will appear as soon as training a good model is doable for under $5000. They’ll get here much quicker if we get video to that mark first.

And all it took was the ritual degradation and abuse of women.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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What's the potential of using this for image restoration? I've been looking into this recently as I've found a ton of old family photos, that I'd like to digitize and repair some of the damage on them There are a lot of tools available, but I haven't found anything where the result isn't just another kind of bad, so if the upscaling and inference in this model is good, it should in theory be possible to restore image…

Current Stable Diffusion's (1.4 and 1.5) img2img can accomplish a lot of this.

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Bummer. AI porn is fun.

The future is probably models trained almost exclusively on porn.

Even if porn is what you want, it's not clear that's what you want. It can probably generate better porn if it has a little context about what, say, a bedroom is.

What's more interesting, is that there's evidence (from public posts, I haven't tried these models myself) that models trained on some porn get better at non-porn images too.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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I am a solo dev working on a creative content creation app to leverage the latest developments in AI. Demoing even the v1 of stable diffusion to the non-technical general users blows them away completely. Now that v2 is here, it’s clear we’re not able to keep pace in developing products to take advantage of it. The general public still is blown away by autosuggest in mobile OS keyboards. Very few really know how far…

I don’t know anybody that is blown away by keyboard auto suggest. It’s wrong as often as it is right. Not saying it isn’t useful, but let’s not oversell it.

I am blown away that auto suggest is so wrong. I simply have this feature turned off.

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Highlights: 768x768 native models (v1.x maxed out at 512x512) a built-in 4x upscaler: "Combined with our text-to-image models, Stable Diffusion 2.0 can now generate images with resolutions of 2048x2048–or even higher." Depth-to-Image Diffusion Model: "infers the depth of an input image, and then generates new images using both the text and depth information." Depth-to-Image can offer all sorts of new creative applica…

> it's trivially easy to fine-tune the model on porn if you want, and porn collections are surprisingly easy to come by Not really surprised they did this, but be sure some communities will have it fine tuned on porn now-ish. So probably they did it for legal reasons in case illegal materials are generated and they are real companies/people with their names on the release?

I looked into it (though didn't download the models - too dodgy). One of the NSFW models that's gained traction, and gained attention because it seems to be better at generating even non-porn faces and bodies, is called "Hassan's blend". Hassan mentioned that he'd taken down an earlier checkpoint because it generated undesirable images.

Reading between the lines, it likely generated CSAM-like images even without explicit prompting for it.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Ah I am glad to see someone else talking about using public domain images! Honestly it baffles me that in all this discussion, I rarely see people discussing how to do this with appropriately licensed images. There are some pretty large datasets out there of public images, and doing so might even help encourage more people to contribute to open datasets. Also if the big ML companies HAD to use open images, they would…

No one is ever going to stop using all the available images until there is a law against it. Why would they?

There are already laws against it but enforcement is laking, as always.
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