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Kenneth Regan did that and came to a conclusion that there were no cheating.
Which is odd, considering how many games Hans played at 90-100% match for chess engine moves, which seems to be a lot more than other GMs, where typically their best games are in the 70% range. See Hikaru and other chess YT channels.
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> Which is clearly a ludicrously blind statement. This statement came from an experiment I conducted. I just tried playing lichess 3+2 game while running a nearby chess.com/analysis on a second display. ... ... and I was barely keeping up with all the clicks, and in the endgame was unable to keep up. So no, efficient cheating in fast games requires at least a special training, and better some automated software to ke…
So because you weren't able, therefore nobody is able? Including teenagers who have had years to practice their cheating skills?
The fact that an athlete in a competitive sport was allowed to partake in an event even after admitting to cheating not only once, but twice, is outrageous in itself.
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> If I was, I'd probably believe that Niemann is a proven cheater and would look for facts to confirm that bias. But Niemann is a proven cheater. He admitted to it himself. The only thing up for debate is how much he’s cheated.
Whatever happened when he was a kid and played online is absolutely irrelevant in otb tournament that had anticheating measures which organisers considered to be sufficient to stop cheating.
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> The chess.com Pro Chess League they suggest he cheated in 12 games of had a $100,000 prize fund. I'd argue that an online tournament is bogus if anybody can cheat by using a computer.
You understand that this whole discussion is about how chess.com detected this at the time and booted him, right? They appear to be doing a better job of detecting cheating than OTB tournaments, which doesn’t say to me “anybody can cheat by using a computer”
They may be able to detect consistent cheating over many games, but still, one can assume that cheating is pervasive in online platforms.
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there are easily observed indications that websites can detect window focus. take facebook for example. if you get a notification while a facebook tab is open but not in focus, the tab title will irritatingly and eye-drawingly flash between "facebook" and "x messaged you" until you focus on the tab. or youtube. if you open a youtube video in the background it will not autoplay until you focus on that tab. these thing…
Easily observed to people who know what to look for or how these things work. I'm sure a mechanic would scoff at how many "obvious signs" the average driver misses about potential problems with their vehicle.
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There are a few competitive sports where the same pattern occurs. Namely decentralized sports, particularly boxing where it's not rare for some elite athlete to be banned temporarily after testing positive for PEDs. Most bans are for 6-12 months which is a joke. My guess is that the more decentralized a sport is, the more likely it is for cheating to occur and go unpunished. Chess is unofficially becoming a decentral…
What does decentralized mean in the context of a sport? Does it mean having more than one governing body for the sport?
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Are you suggesting the unbiased stance should be to ignore all prior evidence? People repeat themselves and form habits.
Whatever people do at young age does not have to define the rest of their lives. Did you never do anything stupid in your life? Also, I don't know why alleged cheating when playing on some site should affect OTB tournament games. They are even governed by different bodies! Just have really thorough anti-cheating measures in place, and see how strong he plays.
The report includes strong evidence he was recently and repeatedly cheating in games for prize money which shows a serious lack of ethics.
Anyway, I don’t see any significant difference in OTB vs online cheating. It’s at most slightly easier to cheat online, but the OTB prize pools are significant.
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As mentioned in the article they are in talks to buy Magnus's app Play Magnus. That being said, if they have literal screenshots of the discussions between Niemann and chess.com admitting to cheating and appealing the ban, those seem like smoking guns in addition to all this other analysis
>if they have literal screenshots of the discussions between Niemann and chess.com admitting to cheating Screenshots are easy enough to fake perfectly that if I didn't trust a party to give an honest summary of the discussion and (as in the current stake) thousands of dollars or more is at stake, then I wouldn't trust screenshots either.
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The admissions were from when he was 12 and 16; many so societies generally believe in redemption from childhood transgressions.
This assertion keeps on being made and it seems almost deliberately obtuse to me. If you do something bad when you are 17.9 should we wipe the slate clean once the odometer rolls over to exactly 18.0 where for some reason that age creates a solid barrier where the person emerges like a chrysalis and all their sins are washed clean? And as a 50 year old, the difference between a 16 year old and a 19 year old are not v…
As for the difference between a 16-year-old and 19 not being big, that probably just depends. At 19, I was absolutely mortified at things I did in high school.