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Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by jiggawatts »

dredmorbius wrote: post #253
xeromal wrote: post #99

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I had a buddy that created a spreadsheet of various foods and their micro/macro nutrients. He's an engineer and wanted to engineer his diet to cover every deficiency in the minimal amount of food possible. He told me that potatoes were almost the perfect food if you could magically reduce the amount of glucose you took from them.

Is there some form of fermented potato dish / treatment? Apparently yes: https://drdavisinfinitehealth.com/2018/02/fermented-raw-pota... (One of several results on search. I've no idea on merits / validity here.)

I eat pickled / fermented thin potato strips as a side-dish with Korean BBQ. They're really delicious!

I also drink highly fermented potatoes, that's called Vodka!

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by taraparo »

flobosg wrote: post #108
strbean wrote: post #84

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What window do you eat during? I've seen lots of focus on eating only in the morning, but much of my life I naturally had low appetite in the mornings and mostly only ate dinner. That also coincided with being young and having an insane metabolism. I haven't actually intentionally implemented intermittent fasting, but I've considered it, and I'm strongly biased towards favoring a "dinner only" window from that experi…

An afternoon window is ok. I’ve done IF eating on a 12pm-8pm or 2pm-8pm schedule and it worked just fine.

I read a study some years ago where they compared two groups of people either skipping breakfast or skipping dinner and found that the group skipping the breakfast had higher inflammation levels. The actual cause was unknown. I also read that when skipping breakfast your metabolism kind of stays in sleep mode (burning less calories) until the first meal.

So not skipping breakfast might be the healthier, more effective protocol.

Unfortunately I cannot provide the sources right now, but I guess a web search will help the interested.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by dredmorbius »

jiggawatts wrote: post #311
dredmorbius wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there some form of fermented potato dish / treatment? Apparently yes: https://drdavisinfinitehealth.com/2018/02/fermented-raw-pota... (One of several results on search. I've no idea on merits / validity here.)

I eat pickled / fermented thin potato strips as a side-dish with Korean BBQ. They're really delicious! I also drink highly fermented potatoes, that's called Vodka!

! do have some famliarity with the "little water".

https://www.etymonline.com/word/vodka

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by CuriouslyC »

coldtea wrote: post #242
jsiaajdsdaa wrote: post #79

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Satiety is a mental construct. I've been underweight, normal weight, and overweight in my life. What your brain tells you to put in your stomach is almost entirely divorced from nutritional requirements for thriving and surviving. The only way to be exceptionally healthy and thin is to ignore the urge to overeat, and this urge is extremely dynamic on a per human basis. As a result, some people out there will eat a ca…

> Satiety is a mental construct. Yeah, just not according to science. E.g. there's ghrelin, cholecystokinin and other "satiety signals". Except if you mean "satiefy is a mental construct" the same way pain is a mental construct. In which case, in a Kantian way, everything is, including space and time. > What your brain tells you to put in your stomach is almost entirely divorced from nutritional requirements for thri…

Hormones are input signals to a neural network that produces a sensation of hunger as an output. The mapping of the network can obviate those inputs easily.

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Post by jamiek88 »

stevage wrote: post #299
rockostrich wrote: post #203

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While anecdotal, it entirely depends on habits and context. If your usual breakfast is pretty big and you tried to switch then you'd definitely start to get pangs of hunger earlier than you usually would. But after a while, your body would adjust and you'd be fine for longer and longer (really until whenever you usually ate your next meal). It's the reason why intermittent fasting or "one-meal-a-day" sucks the first…

How would you get through the initial pains? Hunger is absolutely intolerable for me. When I go out for breakfast I will often have two eggs...and a couple of big pieces of toast, mushrooms, hash browns, spinach etc. I have great difficulty believing that two eggs alone would be sufficient.

It’s so weird how different we can be.

I pretty much never get hungry.

I eat because I’d die and I can only enjoy food having consumed massive doses of thc.

I wish Soylent was more trustworthy or the jetsons pill was real.

It means I can lose weight very easily but combined with severe adhd before I was married I was often in trouble and hospitalized a couple times. Now my wife keeps an eye on me to make sure I eat at least dinner, and Apple Watch reminds me to eat and drink during the work day.

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Post by giaour »

safety1st wrote: post #30

There's actually some science behind this diet. Potatoes are the highest scoring food on the satiety index. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/15-incredibly-filling-f... Basically they're the most filling food per calorie. So if you subscribe to the idea that losing weight is mainly about how many calories you consume, a potato heavy diet should be effective. And an all potato diet, while monomaniacal, even more ef…

>Potatoes are the highest scoring food on the satiety index. ... Eggs and fish are also very high on the satiety index.

So there was sound science behind my all-scrambled-eggs-and-hashbrowns diet in college.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by nicoburns »

stevage wrote: post #299
rockostrich wrote: post #203

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While anecdotal, it entirely depends on habits and context. If your usual breakfast is pretty big and you tried to switch then you'd definitely start to get pangs of hunger earlier than you usually would. But after a while, your body would adjust and you'd be fine for longer and longer (really until whenever you usually ate your next meal). It's the reason why intermittent fasting or "one-meal-a-day" sucks the first…

How would you get through the initial pains? Hunger is absolutely intolerable for me. When I go out for breakfast I will often have two eggs...and a couple of big pieces of toast, mushrooms, hash browns, spinach etc. I have great difficulty believing that two eggs alone would be sufficient.

I will sometimes eat that much when I go out for breakfast too, and yet I often skip breakfast entirely. The body is quite tolerant of different eating patterns.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by coldtea »

jsiaajdsdaa wrote: post #305
coldtea wrote: post #242

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> Satiety is a mental construct. Yeah, just not according to science. E.g. there's ghrelin, cholecystokinin and other "satiety signals". Except if you mean "satiefy is a mental construct" the same way pain is a mental construct. In which case, in a Kantian way, everything is, including space and time. > What your brain tells you to put in your stomach is almost entirely divorced from nutritional requirements for thri…

>not according to THE SCIENCE sorry, dont care

Science, like reality, is that that doesn't stop existing when you close your eyes (or when you don't care).

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by csours »

autoexec wrote: post #260
nostrebored wrote: post #65

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CGMs should disillusion people of this pretty quickly. I really wish more people would try them for a month just to see how they respond to certain foods.

I'd do it if they had one that didn't involve needles.

I've used them before but I sweat too much and they fall off =(

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by mikkergp »

robotburrito wrote: post #297
mikkergp wrote: post #4

Is weight loss the only reason behind "Dieting"? Isn't the "carnivore diet" around mental fitness? That's why I choose a low carb diet, mental and physical fitness(when I'm not actively exercising, I try to limit my carb/sugar intake to mornings before I run)

Ironically I eat a high carb diet for the same reasons. I think that is illustrative of the current state of dietary science haha :)

I highly suspect proper diet is quite variable based on genes/environment/etc. I wonder how mature (or not) dietary science is. We have this firm idea of allergies and vague idea of sensitivities, but I imagine there is a lot more nuance to how different people react to different foods.
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