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For $1000 it looks ok to me!
I guess it's not surprising that a forum full of tech professionals would ignore price when judging things, but the fact that it's fairly cheap absolutely is important for a tonne of people. Not everyone needs enough ram to simultaneously run a bunch of VMs and train a neural network and edit 4k video all at the same time lol. (Although 16gb is almost a non starter for Unreal Engine development, and that does run on…
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#312I want to like this, but I feel like 32GB of RAM is minimum if I were buying a new laptop. I’ve been heavily eyeing the Framework but I’d prefer AMD. This had AMD but is limited to 16GB of RAM… lots of unnecessary tradeoffs being made here.
I’m non-tech side and snorted at max 16GB for devs. GLWT HP. Concur with the other comment that said it’s a marketing exercise aimed at decision makers.
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Problem is it’s not a metal encased laptop with a partially bitten fruit on the back. If it had been that then people would have been happy to pay $2K for 8GB RAM and sing paeans and wait breathlessly to upgrade to next iteration for $2.9K next year, again with 8GB RAM.
I mean, is it clear that it is upgradable? Because I don’t see any information about that on HP’s site. And it isn’t ridiculous to ask this question as most $1100 laptops don’t have upgradable memory. So if you’re stuck at 16GB, that’s unacceptable for a developer laptop in 2022, I don’t care what logo is on the back. 32GB is the only acceptable starting point.
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#314Funny they don't even tell what kind of Ryzen. I presume it's a 5800 or something but still. Good job, marketeers. Man, Ryzen 6000 laptops can't come soon enough.
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Evil Apple, they don't approve of running Linux so... oh wait
Good luck with secure boot or disabling the ME on their closed firmware. It gets extra fun when internal modules or the battery get a firmware update that breaks or degrades Linux support again. I have ported Linux to previous gen macbooks employers insisted I use and it was a mess to maintain. Also consider your warranty void, so good luck with sanely priced repairs given only Apple can get parts or make repairs in…
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Yeah it's very hopeful there is a delay built in when pressing that, like Apple does.
Why "built in"? Isn't that just software? E.g. on every Linux laptop I had there was a drop-down menu for "when power button is pressed, do...".
And it's handy to not ignore the power button. What Apple does is just waiting to trigger the ACPI event unless you press it for half a second or so.
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It also means when something inevitably does go wrong, you throw the entire thing away and get a new one. I do not consider this a reasonable or sustainable approach, particularly when out of warranty.
That’s true but if integration means that it’s very rare for anything to go wrong within the product’s lifetime that may not matter and in fact be a net win. I’ve never had anything break on a laptop[1] I’ve owned regardless of brand since 2005. I can’t be that atypical. 1. Apart from maybe the wifi on my XPS13 which I can just about live with by turning wifi on and off.
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#319I'm not going to critique this laptop as others have done here. Just over $1K for a laptop with an 8 core Ryzen, 16GB DDR4 and a 1TB SSD isn't outrageous. The main takeaways I get from this are that HP is now getting on the Linux developer bandwagon, and that they chose Pop!_OS as their distro due to the success and reputation of System76. And I think these are both good things, and a sign that we'll see more of the…
Yeah, I didn't get the critique either. People are like we listen to music, have a few docker instances running and we use VScode, we need 32 gb Ram or more. Why do you need a text editor/ide which consumes so much ram? Is this the reason that apps have gotten more bloated and slow on older devices? Idk, I'm not a programmer. I think the price is fair enough, and if the ram isn't soldered (one would be and the other…
People who need 32 GB of RAM are where you do mobile development for multiple phones. I don’t think the price can be judged. If the RAm is ddr5 or if the SSD is very fast or how it behaves in real world developer workflows is much more important.
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To make matters worse it's HP. I've been subjected to multiple laptops of theirs over the years thanks to work.
Counterpoint - my circa 2017 HP Spectre x360 is the best laptop I've ever bought, really happy with that purchase. Getting a bit long in the tooth, though.