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Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I’m particularly sad to see Cloudflare’s stock having plummeted. Out of all the tech companies that IPO’d in the past few years, Cloudflare is one that the most potential to excel long term. Developer sentiment towards Cloudflare is comparable to Apple fanboys of the previous decade, and their products are legitimately good, backed with tangible assets (datacenters). They also have consistent growth quarter over quar…

Opposing view. Cloudflare doesn’t own anything significant in the form of data centers. Having small rented footprints at IXPs across the globe is not an asset, it’s just a cost. I’m not downplaying the difficulty of getting it setup but there is no intrinsic value in having it if demand for their product collapses. > Developer sentiment towards Cloudflare is comparable to Apple fanboys of the previous decade This is…

Why do you call it “protection money”? Surely Cloudflare doesn’t directly or indirectly cause DDoS attacks for people who don’t pay them.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I’m implying that it wasn’t “2-3 years” as the parent poster alluded to.

“ In 2-3 years we will be recovering.” I’m not sure exactly what he meant, I read it as “we will be near the bottom in 2-3 years”. Recovering means something different than recovered.

Exactly.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I'm a NET watcher/holder, I've read most of their earnings call transcripts and SEC docs since the S-1. IMO, they were way overvalued at their peak on fundamentals. With the recent slide, I think they're "far" undervalued, to an extent that varies based on how much value one attributes to present and future tailwinds that cannot be encoded on a balance sheet as future receivables. Boiling it down, I think institution…

This may be the wrong place to ask, but if a regular person wanted to buy stock in an individual company or two, and mostly hold it (not day-trade), what's the right channel for that? Might put some fun-money in Cloudflare

Lots of online brokers will let you trade individual securities. The used to be more fees associated, but lots of places now allow zero-fee trading as well. ymmv

https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/investing/online-brokers-for...

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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This is an astonishingly limited view of what makes a “good company”.

Not really. If you can’t handle a down turn, how are you a good company?

A tech company that makes large capital outlays expecting growth might do very well in an expanding economy but get destroyed in a recession.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I lived through the dotcom bust, the financial crisis and now this. Long term it isn’t going to be any worse than they were. In 2-3 years we will be recovering. I feel bad for people who can’t wait out a market cycle, but that’s what this is, somewhat exacerbated by the Fed’s actions leading up to this point.

It took 15 years for Nasdaq to recover from the dot com bust. The S&P 500 was flat from 2000-2010.

Well... There may have also been another major financial event during that time.....

If you consistently invested during that period you'd be doing well.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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Cloudflare is down 71% in that same period. Zoom is down 60%. Speculative pandemic tech darlings are no longer darlings and are being hammered across the board. It's going to be a rough time for anyone who had high hopes for their equity compensation.

Cloudflare might have been a frothy valuation, but it's still growing 54% YoY. I'm buying at these prices. ($NET bagholder)

Same here. I bought their stock on several occasions, and a few times near the peak. I regret the timing, but not the decision to invest in this company.

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Peloton is headed the way of GoPro. They were a pandemic fad for folks stuck in their homes and now you can't get rid of them on FB Marketplace etc.

I'm not sure they care too much how much their bikes earn on resale as long as they get new owners, even if people give them away for free they earn money when those new Peloton owners subscribe at $40/month.

So I'm actually in on PTON right now and feeling some pain, but what made it click for me was that the bike was completely unusable without a subscription.

At this point, returns and people just burning/destroying their Pelotons are the only risk.

In addition two things made me think about it:

- The kind of people who buy pelotons are usually not the people who worry about that amount of monthly charge and may keep it aspirationally

- The new game they put out (kind of guitar hero-y) actually doesn't look half bad, and the product itself is quite polished.

- In addition to buying the bike, people often buy one or two pairs of clip in cycling shoes -- Peloton could actually start becoming a go to for riding gear and have quite the audience to sell to from day one.

Anxious to read their recent earnings report tomorrow.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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It's quite entertaining that when electronics and clothes go on sale people go buy buy buy, but when stocks go on sale people sell like crazy. People are weird.

Every one of those stock sales has a buyer too.

Market makers are a thing.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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Probably works in some parts of the country but it doesn’t work in SV unless you’re mega-wealthy already and paid off your house.

It works if you live by yourself in a 1BR. To pay the mortgage on a family home you probably need to sell RSUs. It is also super risky to to buy a house you need RSUs to hold on to - exactly the kind of risk that is unreasonable if you have a family.

Most people in SV do this. So, it’s pretty normal actually.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I’m particularly sad to see Cloudflare’s stock having plummeted. Out of all the tech companies that IPO’d in the past few years, Cloudflare is one that the most potential to excel long term. Developer sentiment towards Cloudflare is comparable to Apple fanboys of the previous decade, and their products are legitimately good, backed with tangible assets (datacenters). They also have consistent growth quarter over quar…

Opposing view. Cloudflare doesn’t own anything significant in the form of data centers. Having small rented footprints at IXPs across the globe is not an asset, it’s just a cost. I’m not downplaying the difficulty of getting it setup but there is no intrinsic value in having it if demand for their product collapses. > Developer sentiment towards Cloudflare is comparable to Apple fanboys of the previous decade This is…

Capitalism is just a bad ecology.

When whole species get torn down in one solar year bc some other species began to adopt a winning adaptation, that seems prone to overshooting (excessive curve fitting to the first derivative), with odd/suboptimal outcomes as no surprise.

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