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IBM's Asshole Test

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Re: IBM's Asshole Test

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Did anyone have a smartphone that could take great photos in 2006?

Depends what you mean by great, but there were a number of phones with 2-3mp cameras, more than sufficient for a whiteboard. And regardless it was an interview structured with a whiteboard, cameras (digital or not) had been things for a while, the company could gave provided one.

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Re: IBM's Asshole Test

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I would probably fail this test as someone who has been accused before in professional settings of being an 'asshole' due to my speaking method. When the reality is far far less interesting: the combination of a pathological speech condition (which I covered up early as a child by mumbling a lot and thus picked up some bad enunciation habits), and inheriting a deep voice historically made me come off as bored and dis…

>I just have one of those voices that doesn't come across as exactly.... 'animated' when it hits your ears for the first time.

ahh yes, the vocal analog of "resting bitch face". A true shame.

Those quirks are unfortunate. I have a tendency to laugh when nervous and I've had some situations where I was interpreted as being inappropriate to some solemn situations.

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It's just because the interviewing tool you have to put your notes into at Google takes text and not pictures :-). The hiring committee will actually look at this, and this is a different person from the interviewer.

Ok, but they were transcribing from the whiteboard onto paper. So everything I wrote must have been transcribed twice before it reached the hiring committee.

Isn't this a bit of revisionist thinking? I don't know that cameras of that quality were commonplace in 2006. It's not like you could just pull out your iPhone. And most digital cameras weren't much better (i.e. I wouldn't trust being able to read handwriting from their pictures). So then what, you supply each interviewer with a roll of film and a company darkroom?

It's also easier to write your own notes down this way too.

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The FBI has a bar inside their offices?

British Intelligence has bars inside their offices. In fact the British security services are basically an oxbridge drinking society.

My brother was in the USMC and was a bit jealous that the Australian Navy guys had pubs on their ships.

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funny because i’ve heard of a very similar anecdote to this one but at southwest airlines.

And I'm sitting here wondering how people have bad interactions with flight attendants? Literally 90% of the words I say to them are: Hello, how are you. Thank you. Yes, water please. Have a good day. I think I asked once for a pillow (usually on Redeyes they hand them out) I've never had a fight attendant decline my request, or complain about it...

I once had a "There is water dripping on me; can you move me to a different seat and also tell me whether I should be concerned about that?". The flight attendant wasn't too thrilled about that one, probably because it created extra work for whoever had to figure out that it was just condensation. That's the only negative interaction I've ever had with a flight crew.

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That's the really nasty thing about retail: the angrier and more abusive you are, you'll likely get your way. And much of the time, "your way" is being made whole with the situation. Ive worked retail for quite some time but broke out into IT. But the abuse is expected in retail. Managers are paid minimally more to deal with it - and that's to prevent customer complaints to corporate. Pretty much everyone, at some ti…

depends on where you live - growing up in New Zealand we don't have a tipping culture, servers will get to you, in your turn, try and demand service and you're cutting against a cultural grain, perceived to be trying to claim you're better, more important, than the other customers, or the server. I read somewhere that our "obnoxious American tourist" stereotype came from some time in the 60s when rich tourists starte…

The Arrogant American became the Arrogant German (1990s / 2000s), and is now often the Irate Brexiter.

Being identifiable (appearance, langauge), significant in number, and crossing some threshold of observably obnoxious behaviour tends to leave impressions.

Within the US, you'll often find neighbouring-state stereotypes: "massholes", Texans (particularly in Colorado), Californians (Oregon), New Yorkers (city, everywhere), Yankees (the South), Southerners (the North), city slickers (country), country hicks (cities).

Much of this is inherent tribalism and not matching local patterns of speech, behavioiur, specific local knowledge, and the like.

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post #93

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Hm, I don't dig this. I don't think it's ethical to evaluate a candidate's interactions when they weren't informed they were being evaluated. People are stressed heading into an interview, and may be upset afterwards. Unless they're interviewing for a public-facing role, I don't see how this behavior is relevant to the job; and discussing it with a hiring committee invites all sorts of "cultural fit" biases that make…

> I don't think it's ethical to evaluate a candidate's interactions when they weren't informed they were being evaluated. That makes about as much sense as saying that you shouldn’t be held responsible for stealing office supplies because no one informed you that there were cameras installed. If you treat cab drivers and other service personnel badly, that’s because you’re a shit person. It’s really that simple. I’ve…

If you cheat on your partner you are also a "shit person". Do you think employers should reject candidates if they know they cheated on a romantic relationship?

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post #193

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No, they don't, generally. When was the last time you were required to compose code in a real world situation, in front of someone, while talking through your thought process, all under time pressure and in a high-stakes environment?

Every time I pair program. Also sometimes I've given talks that way. I like it, I guess not everybody does.

You pair program under time pressure similar to interview conditions? Really? I find that hard to believe.

As for giving talks that way, I would not say that qualifies as a high stakes environment. Your likely worst case scenario is that either your code or some bit of technology involved doesn't work right, so you laugh it off and explain what was supposed to happen.

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This sounds so weird, people without any expertise in human psychology are in-charge of a behavior detection exercise. The worst part, those who got in were the new experts in 6-months.

This is fetishizing psychology expertise. Others are allowed to participate. I don't need a PhD in economics to participate in our economy.

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The FBI has a bar inside their offices?

British Intelligence has bars inside their offices. In fact the British security services are basically an oxbridge drinking society.

Are the pubs meant to train new operatives to avoid awkward situations like this? https://www.google.com/amp/s/screenrant.com/inglourious-bast...
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