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Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

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Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

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dundarious wrote: post #227
danamit wrote: post #212

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I worked and got paid in crypto in the past, which made me able to move out. Also I used crypto to pay for services, I just bought a GPU (for gaming, current one broke, I do not mine crypto) with crypto that's still shipping. I won't call the adoption pathetic, it is just that you are not in the circle of adoption/need. Just like I see people mentioning services here that they say they cannot live without and I do no…

If you use almost any goods or services almost anywhere in the world, you at least indirectly benefit from or use the global banking system, as it is the de facto (and probably quite often de jure) system for payments. There are no alternatives that are as good as it, on pretty much any axis. This includes all crypto. I'm not trying to unfairly critique your personal choices, but that's just the reality. Just like ho…

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Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

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mandmandam wrote: post #73
bb88 wrote: post #66

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> Honestly the reasoning is weird. Don't get me wrong, I think crypto currencies are for the most part a scam, a ponzi scheme or a a platform for pump and dumps. and > Yet the whole thing just does not make sense imo. It's one thing to be against crypto, but refusing it when you are a charity for the most asinine moral purity tests is absurd. It seems like the first paragraph you said would be enough of a reason to n…

Man, there's a baby in that bathwater Wiki RFC are throwing out. There are projects that are fair, were fairly distributed, that work and are secure, that are feeless and instant, all while being truly decentralized. Everything that Bitcoin promised to be and wasn't. So, when the scams die out the best projects willl still exist. It doesn't matter how much of their own face Wikipedia cuts off, but it's sad to see the…

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Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

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Post by ea550ff70a »

missingdays wrote: post #126
AlexAltea wrote: post #103

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> What is really happening is that nobody is using it for payments at all [Citation needed] Over the past years I've been able to book flights, shop hardware, get hotels and rental cars, renew my domain, pay for my server with cryptocurrencies.

So, you are 0.08%

No problem. Don't cry later with annoying banners crying for donations in order to keep the site's operations running.

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Post by otterley »

preisschild wrote: post #133
iso1631 wrote: post #124

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> There are projects that are fair, were fairly distributed, that work and are secure, that are feeless and instant, all while being truly decentralized Name two?

Monero and Monero related projects, like Haveno. Its probably one of the most used cryptocurrencies for normal transactions, as most darkweb marketplaces use it.

Nobody outside of this thread would use “normal transactions” and “darkweb” in the same sentence.

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Post by ea550ff70a »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #36
jdrc wrote: post #33

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that was not one of the arguments made in the RFC > Common arguments in support include: issues of environmental sustainability, that accepting cryptocurrencies constitutes implicit endorsement of the issues surrounding cryptocurrencies, and community issues with the risk to the movement’s reputation for accepting cryptocurrencies. it looks 100% ideological

Accepting cryptocurrencies is equally ideological

Accepting the war-driven petro-dollar is equally ideological.

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Post by stjohnswarts »

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #132
unicornmama wrote: post #21

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So you chose to unbank yourself :) I have transacted millions in crypto and wire transfers. Banking with crypto is like the 1970s - exorbitant fees. To do anything useful with it I have to offramp to fiat which drum rolls ends with a wire transfer.

I once wanted to lend money to my brother only to discover that my bank imposes monthly caps on money transfers "for your safety". Cryptocurrencies never do such dumb shit.

That's a default limit. I'm sure they will raise if you walk in and tell them you're going to transfer x amount out.

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Post by ea550ff70a »

thehappypm wrote: post #292
koonsolo wrote: post #99

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Ukraine received millions of dollars of donations in cryptocurrency. So your last statement is not really correct.

This is crypto’s second largest use case, behind as a means for illegal activities. Crypto is easier to send in extreme situations than fiat currencies.

> behind as a means for illegal activities

which are less than 1% of the yearly transaction volume according to Chainalysis lol

Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

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Post by otterley »

mcherm wrote: post #141
ithinkso wrote: post #119

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There was a vote, the majority (70%+) of those that voted voted to stop. I don't know why other arguments would matter

Because I didn't participate in that vote, along with huge numbers of people who are similarly situated. I am a user of Wikipedia and a regular donor, but I do not follow whatever list there is of issues to be voted on. This was not a vote of Wikipedia donors, it was a vote of politically active Wikipedia authors on the subject of which donations should be accepted.

You also don’t get to vote on how HN, Twitter, or Facebook operate, no matter how many posts you write. None of these belong to you, so you don’t get a say. You are, of course, welcome to build your own and take payment however you please.

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

namdnay wrote: post #224
px43 wrote: post #179

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Expedia has accepted Bitcoin for almost a decade: https://www.expedia.com/Checkout/BitcoinTermsAndConditions

That's not "accepting payment with bitcoin" - it's just a link for coinbase to convert your bitcoin to USD before booking. Look at the T&Cs, it's a USD booking underneath Accepting payment with bitcoin means using bitcoin as the currency in the PNR, just like you can use euros or yen or pounds or whatever

... Why does this matter? GP asked about whether you can use Bitcoin to receive goods and services. Nobody asked what Expedia puts in their balance sheet, you're moving the goalposts.

Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

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Post by ea550ff70a »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #307

I've been ignoring crypto for the most post but this is just dumb, they are turning away free money. It's not up to wikipedia to fix the problems of the world (take a hint mozilla). This is a pretty big red flag about flaws in Wikipedia's governance.

Even if it is 0.8% of their donations, it is still a lot. They are pretty direct with how drastic is for them to receive donations in order to survive. This decision is just dumb.
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