So the UX is worse than Linux, and Windows? I don't believe that for one second.
Impressions from a first-time Mac user
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Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user
#312My wife just switched from being a life-long Windows user to a Mac last week. The two biggest frustrations according to her are: Cmd+O to open a file and window management. And as a long time Mac user myself, I completely agree.
Cmd+Down also works, which is better if you're using the arrow keys to navigate files.
Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user
#313There's a lot of people in comments defending macOS saying that the difference in switching between operating systems will lead to a bad experience no matter what and people just need to power through and learn the new system. I'll say that I've used Windows and macOS both personally and professionally for two decades now (longer for Windows). I'd consider myself a power user in both OSes, I know the keyboard shortcu…
> My experience is that Windows has far better UX for pretty most end users.
UPDATE: After seeing a reply to this comment, I googled some screenshots. It seems that Macs normally do display a hint for the shortcut to delete files. I'm not sure why mine doesn't.
Windows is also more learnable. On Mac at least today you're just supposed to know stuff. The most basic operation: deleting files. Seems like an operation you'd like to speed up with a shortcut, since you're going to be doing a lot of that with your computer. Mac has hints in its menus about shortcuts for different actions, just like Windows. However, they're hardly ever there. That sounds a bit contradictory, but mind the quantifiers. The selection of which actions have hints about their shortcuts is completely arbitrary. It's completely disconnected from the potential frequency of use, and the hints that are there are far and few between. So, back to deleting files: this is not hinted in the menu. You can select this action with the mouse, but come on, going to the menu, finding this action and clicking it is a ridiculously slow process for such a common operation. Dragging files to the trash bin is only marginally better. It has a shortcut, it's just that macOS won't tell you what this shortcut is. This is insider knowledge. And then you google it, and find that it's "Cmd+Delete". So you press that... and it doesn't work. Because on macOS Delete is Backspace and Delete is Reverse Delete.
Also, it's a theme that what requires a single keypress or two on Windows, on macOS requires a convoluted chord making you look like Axl Rose playing solo of November Rain. I mean, look at the shortcuts to take screenshots: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201361> Wat??? 1. Who thought that would be easy to remember? 2. Who thought that would be easy to press?
Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user
#314That's just like, your opinion, man. But, seriously, I've become so accustomed to the many shortcomings of macOS UX that using anything else would be like living in a house without loose doorknobs and sloping floors. Embrace the suck.
> Embrace the suck
OP here. Can I get that printed on a t-shirt?
Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user
#315I was expecting a rant about the Finder, found one on window management (which has infinite solutions).
Other than the spacebar and column view, the Finder is a toy compared to File Explorer.exe and I’ll never forgive Apple for it. 20 years of staleness.
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#316Lots of "I don't like how it tastes/feels, therefore it must be bad" packaged in a rant, as usual. Essentially only useful information if you are a clone of the author, in all other cases your milage will vary... drastically. There isn't much of a point in attacking or defending taste in such a way, but neither is trying to objectively score something because it's not the objective score that matters, it's how it fee…
Right...like if I made a blog post about my experience using Windows when I'm forced to, it'd surely be more than a few paragraphs long. The UI in MacOS isn't perfect but it's a lot better than the state of Windows 10, not even close.
I dunno, I really like being able to set out my most-used apps and cycle between them with Win+n - much quicker than alt tab / cmd tab.
But then that’s not obvious unless you’ve read any of the documentation - so that’s another question, how many people actually read up about their OS features ?
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Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user
#318Lots of "I don't like how it tastes/feels, therefore it must be bad" packaged in a rant, as usual. Essentially only useful information if you are a clone of the author, in all other cases your milage will vary... drastically. There isn't much of a point in attacking or defending taste in such a way, but neither is trying to objectively score something because it's not the objective score that matters, it's how it fee…
What a useless comment. The post is from someone new to Macs. You have completely failed to grasp the context and got immediately defensive.
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Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user
#319My recommendations for Mac Users: * Put the Dock left or right, vertical space is precious (trust me, do it for a week and then decide) * Setup Hot-Corners (Settings -> Mission Control -> Hot Corners) - Upper-Right Corner as Mission Control (Must be upper right so spaces are immediately shown) - Lower-Left Corner as Application Windows - just fling your mouse curser into the corner (use std. gestures on the trackpad)…
> Learn about the screenshot shortcuts CMD+shift+{3,4}, 3: full screen, 4: select area or switch to window select with hitting space bar once.
I just learned about command-shift-5 for screen recordings, which is super nice for showing a visual diff of work done.
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#320I know die hard old devs that are Mac fanboys and the first thing they do is turn off "natural" scrolling. I know because I had to ask them if I was holding it wrong. Couldn't believe it.