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I'm really happy they're not going with a iMac pro form factor for these. Having a separate display and computer is great for avoiding e-waste. There are a ton of iMacs out there that have obsolete hardware but a screen that still works great.

I died inside when they got rid of target display mode for iMacs.

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And cyberpunk 2077 or farcry 6 on full on ultra settings makes me almost want to cry it's so pretty. I'll walk past a puddle and just... walk back and forward. It feels like what your teenage overclock made crysis look look like in the early 2000's, I can recommend.

ha! are you me? Had the benefit to purchase my self a beasty computer right before Cyberpunk launched. I don't know how many times I just stopped what I was doing and just look at something shiny/bright. Last time I felt this way must have been back with HL2

Fortunately it's gotten better. I didn't play it much during the first months as it was such a terrible shitshow of bugs. Seems they're getting ontop of it now though. I feel deeply sorry for the devs that they made them release it in such a condition. We've all been there I guess!

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I would like to highlight just how much Apple is focusing on their customers and use cases right now. It seems that they're targeting products to what their professional customers actually want. And in this case, it's a 3.7" little thing that can process 18 streams of 8k video (fully specced out). That's kinda crazy, and they're doing it at a price point that's competitive compared to all of the companies out there.…

Why are they doing this? Trickle down effects for their mass market products? There is no way that the prosumer market is big enough to justify this distraction for Apple even if it used to be their core business line.

The indie professional market is more than big enough to justify this. Small films have been able to roll some pretty impressive vfx on desktop computers recently, and North American creative types tend to love Macs.

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More and more I see the M1 chips and I wish Mac worked seriously well for gaming. Would love too see something like Proton but for Mac (given up hopes for native support). I hate that I have my gaming PC and then my Mac for everything else. I have to wonder though what their plan is for the M2. Are they laying the groundwork for when the M2 comes out all of these variants will be ready at the same time? Or a gradual…

> More and more I see the M1 chips and I wish Mac worked seriously well for gaming.

I guess Apple will never play the console game, with having their own game developer studios and buying exclusives.

But I wish they would put a M1 in an Apple TV, releasing their own controller and just do something!

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Mac Pro scale up? How is this going to scale up to a Mac Pro, especially related to RAM? The Ultra caps at 128 GB of RAM (which isn't much for video editing, especially given that the GPU uses the system RAM). Today's Mac Pro goes up to 1.5TB (and has dedicated video RAM above this). If the Mac Pro is say, 4 Ultra's stacked together - that means the new Mac Pro will be capped at 512GB of RAM. Would Apple stack 12 Ult…

Hector Martin who’s developing Asahi Linux for Apple Silicon recently tweeted about this. The M1 Pro, M1 Max and the at the time unannounced “Double M1 Max” have a completely different series identifier (T600x) to the forth coming Mac Pro chip (T6500) so no it won’t just be a doubling/quadrupling of an existing design. https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1498317101245034502?s=21

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More and more I see the M1 chips and I wish Mac worked seriously well for gaming. Would love too see something like Proton but for Mac (given up hopes for native support). I hate that I have my gaming PC and then my Mac for everything else. I have to wonder though what their plan is for the M2. Are they laying the groundwork for when the M2 comes out all of these variants will be ready at the same time? Or a gradual…

Seriously. If Apple supported gaming more I'd be able to drop this PC. Could be the sort of thing that could cause an avalanche of switchers. You'd also pull over the entire games industry into the Apple space. Right now we code on PCs. As Apple silicon gets better, it's gonna be more and more painful to not be able to make use of that.

Not sure about game developers, but gamers are a low-margin, high-touch, low-satisfaction-score, garish-aesthetic, speeds-and-feeds market. Pretty much antithetical to Apple's core focus and I think they rightly avoid them. Despite personally wanting more games on Mac :)

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I don’t buy Apple products for philosophical reasons, but the Mac Mini, and now Mac Studio, are everything I wish Intel NUCs were. I have an Intel Skull Canyon system from 2016 as my gaming PC and it fits in my wife’s purse. Since then, the gaming NUC variants have gotten larger and larger so that they’re nearly mini-ATX form factor again.

You should get into the small form factor (SFF) Mini ITX gaming scene.

Brands like Velkase, Custom MOD (in Ukraine, cannot currently conduct business), Phanteks, DAN Case, NZXT H1 V2, and many others are really interesting options.

I've built systems that use either SFX PSUs or Flex ATX PSUs (the latter are usually modified with Noctua fans to quiet them down, so using a case that requires an SFX power supply is more noob-friendly and will have more generous power limits)

The Optimum Tech channel on YouTube is a great as a general small form factor resource. Here's a case roundup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo8T81nuLFM

Gamers Nexus sometimes covers small form factor, but Optimum Tech has a lot more focus on SFF in particular.

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Apple finally releases a powerful affordable desktop computer. Now I am worried it's the start of WW3 or otherwise the end of the world. Going outside now to look for flying pigs

What? $2000 for the Studio plus $1600 for their 5K display means Apple's new entry level workstation now costs $3600. That's a LOT more expensive than the old iMac 27 i7 at about $2400.

To sum up, Apple just hiked their entry level workstation's price by $1200. AND they convinced you they performed magic.

No, I think that flying pig you saw was proof that Jobs' reality distortion field is still alive and well.

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I simply forgot that they made it. I forgot a lot of stuff in 2020 and 2021, like most people. But by extension I certainly don't remember it being "super well received", or I'd probably have remembered it at all. Either way: look at it. It's a tower PC. Do you think the current Apple trajectory has any meaningful room for that? What are people going to really be putting in it except disks?

"I forgot about it so it must not be great". It's an amazing machine. It's an incredibly expensive machine, but still amazing. > Do you think the current Apple trajectory has any meaningful room for that? Are you upset that you think Apple is going to stop making something that you forgot they made, except there is absolutely 0 evidence that they will stop making it? We know for a fact that they are going to release…

> "I forgot about it so it must not be great".

I didn't phrase it that way, but thanks, I guess. Whatever.

> Are you upset that you think Apple is going to stop making something that you forgot they made, except there is absolutely 0 evidence that they will stop making it?

I didn't say they'd stop making it, quite.

So much as that I think the product designation is a phantom, in a way. And the more alternatives they add to the Mac Pro, the less the market needs it.

How many people who bought the forgettable machine put an expansion card in it, do you think? How many of those people thus simply do not need anything more than the Studio?

And also: how many third party manufacturers are going to rush out of the gate to port their drivers to some complex new multiprocessing M1 machine?

I agree they have been pragmatic. But I think they've also sliced and diced this segment to the point where it doesn't make the sense it did.

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