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Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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It’s sad that youtube can choose what content to host? It’s sad that not everyone agrees with all the choices they make? Doesn’t seem sad to me. The alternative, where youtube cannot choose what content to host, seems sad to me.

Google is a nearly two trillion dollar company. I shed no tears for “forcing” them to host speech they don’t like. My desire to give companies rights diminishes with scale.

Fortunately, in the US, we have the first amendment as a shield against authoritarians who would dictate the content we see.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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This is ridiculous hyperbole. Maybe what you’re saying is true in the US and several other places but there are absolutely unrigged elections elsewhere. Then you could respond with how things are effectively systemically rigged through gerrymandering/news media/misinformation/propaganda/mind control/harassment/selective enforcement but that’s something else.

Where are you thinking? Iceland maybe, but that would be the exception to the rule.

What are your sources that elections are rigged in Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Switzerland, New Zealand, Austria, Ireland, Japan, Taiwan, Czech Republic?

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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The self-serving, inconsistent, intellectually-dishonest take that some have when they can't parrot provably false nonsense that is a mere Google search away from being debunked is really obnoxious. I imagine many of these same people championed the rights of private businesses to decide who they did and didn't serve when it came to the infamous cakeshop [1] yet when Youtube or Twitter or Facebook makes exactly the s…

Are there any YouTube sized cake shops monopolies?

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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   When reached for comment, YouTube policy communications 
   manager Ivy Choi confirmed that the channel had been 
   suspended for posting content in violation of YouTube’s 
   policies.  “We removed content from and issued a strike 
   to this channel for violating our election integrity 
   policy, and as a result, this channel is suspended from 
   publishing new videos or livestreams for seven days,” 
   Choi told the Daily Caller News Foundation. “We do allow 
   for content with sufficient educational, documentary, 
   scientific or artistic context, which the removed content 
   did not contain.”
Wow. If you want another Trump elected, Ms. Choi, then by all means, proceed.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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It's scary how many of the systems we were worried about in China (e.g. social credit system, censorship, etc.) are basically being created now in the west through the proxy of critical companies blocking access and/or working together.

A bit different considering the west has alternatives which are not blocked, whereas China doesn't. You can even spin up your own sources and serve whatever you want,a right not afforded the average Chinese citizen.

A bit different considering the west has alternatives which are not blocked,

Yeah, right up until we don't. Wishful thinking doesn't scale.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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Wow, John Mearsheimer is now a Russian propagandist? You can disagree, but you may want to listen to one of your best thinkers in international politics.

This fellow was completely and utterly wrong about Putin, saying that he'd never invade. How can someone be proven so wrong about their life's work and still be called "one of your best thinkers in international politics."?

He predicted this crisis in 2014, and I think he has been quite consistent on saying Putin will act, just that Putin will not occupy Ukraine. Now there is the possibility of Russia taking the eastern part, but his main thesis is still valid: the west should leave Ukraine as a buffer state.

https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-t...

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> If it's instructions on drinking bleach, why censor it? Not comparable.

That's fair. Instructions on drinking bleach might cause others to be harmed. This is different because nobody has ever come to harm because of this. I'd imagine if people believed this, there would have been some kind of violence on say, January 6th the day of the insurrection-- sorry, inauguration. Please let me know if you know how to fix this unfortunate typo.

>” Please let me know if you know how to fix this unfortunate typo.”

You can click the edit button. But you’re probably trying to make a snarky point.

If we are going to say that censorship is justified because you want to prevent violence or insurrections, we open the floodgates to some seriously bad things. Here’s a scenario:

Claiming that people are being systematically discriminated against could lead to violence and death. Saying that police officers kill minorities could lead to another CHAZ/CHOP, which was also an insurrection where people died. As a result, we need to silence ACAB and anyone who delegitimizes our police.

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I’m becoming more convinced that the future I’ve been planning simply won’t be possible in the decades to come. The world is scarcely recognizable. And having experienced nothing but peace and prosperity makes me feel woefully unprepared. The WEIRD world is becoming increasingly more authoritarian. I’m already detached from real conflict and scarcity, knowing nothing but peace and prosperity, and the TikTok generatio…

I would recommend reading about people that have gone through revolutions/war conflicts. Especially worker-led movements that have toppled Tsars, Kings, and Militaries. I'd also recommend this for non-violent weapons against dictatorships(https://www.aeinstein.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/FDTD.pd...)

The world is certainly dark but I find comfort in knowing that the majority of us simply want to live peaceful lives, and watch our families prosper.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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Hard times and war change people. Many changes are negative: poorer, less secure, less trusting, more fearful, devastating losses. But other changes are for the better. And you don't need war to make these changes. If you make them before hard times come, you'll be better prepared for them: becoming more stoic (less emotional, less offended at everything), becoming more serious, more resourceful, more self-reliant, l…

All of the things you wrote as good things are (mostly) good things, glittering generalities that have no bearing on whether hard times are good or bad. To connect the two, you'd have to complete the scurrilous reference made that we are currently in a time of "weak men". You may or may not be aware that the "Hard times..." meme is widely used among not just stoics, but also fascist groups to suggest that the current…

> To have feelings isn't weak.

I compare it to kids having allergic reactions. If you grow up in a sterile environment your immune system reacts to minor environmental irritants. And that is maladaptive.

My parents were in their 20s during the Bangladesh independence war, when Pakistan engaged in genocide of Bangladeshis: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/genocide-us-cant-reme.... Even leaving aside the violence—when they were growing up, 1 out of 4 kids didn’t make it to age 5. They can talk about the war in, if not neutral, objective and unemotional terms. They would never suggest they’ve encountered any adversity in their life. But certainly nothing that happens in America gets them all that worked up.

And I can’t help but feel that this really does make them better, more capable, and more effective people. They’re able to grapple with reality in all its messiness in a detached unemotional way.

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