Serious question, as I am interested in this device. Huawei has lately been in the news as a security threat. How can I justify using this device, to myself and my company, given the security threat Huawei supposedly represents?
No trolls or shills need reply.
Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet
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#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would be nice if you also had an argument with your statement and not just mockery, to prove me wrong.
> Would be nice if you also had an argument with your statement and not just mockery, to prove me wrong. So you make a massive unsubstantiated claim and I have to prove you wrong? I see the way your logic works. Lets see. You've made the claim that "E-ink owns the parents, the fabs and the secret sauce to profitably producing quality e-ink film in good yelds.". So let me ask a simple question. Since you say E-ink own…
Mate, you're going completely off the rails and I'm not sure if you're actively trolling or are misinformed and in denial.
E-ink is a manufacturer of the E-ink pigment particles and the EPD film that's then sold to various display manufacturers where it gets sandwiched between glass, an ITO top electrode and a TFT bottom layer connected to a CoG (chip on glass), basically like any other LCD TFT display but instead of liquid crystal you have the famous patented E-ink pigment.
Those EPD display manufacturers all depend on buying the e-ink film manufactured by E-ink, at their fab in ... drum-roll ... Taiwan (big surprise). None of these EPD display company could make displays by themselves without the film they buy from E-ink.
Just read their website [1] and article [2] before spewing more nonsense
[1] "E Ink manufacturers a number of EPD films, with different attributes depending on application needs"
[1] https://www.eink.com/e-ink-film.html
[2] " As part of E Ink’s manufacturing process, microcapsules of ink coat plastic film. The film is then dried, inspected, rerolled, and sent on for further processing."
[2] https://spectrum.ieee.org/how-e-ink-developed-full-color-epa...
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#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
I checked them out and as far as I could tell, both are making displays based on E-ink's film. E-ink is also a major shareholder of Plastic Logic. As I was saying, E-ink is the only game in town making the film. All the others are making displays based on it.
> both are making displays based on E-ink's film Jesus H Christ. Sigh... Just have a google again on OED and at least read the first page of their website properly. It is clear to me the level of confidence in your claims corresponds inversely with the level of accuracy of the facts.
You really have no idea what you're talking about. Please read E-ink's website before spreading more disinformation.
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#314I will not touch anything Huawei with a ten-foot pole. Thanks.
But I also hope this will drive down prices.
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I have a Remarkable 2. I cannot describe how much I love the writing experience on it. I don't think any other standard tablet has ever come close to that. I also feel like you for the paid Connect account, which I work around using open source tools that you're free to run on it. You can SSH as root easily and run whatever you want. I do it frequently for screen sharing.
I always find funny how people gush over the Remarkable especially the writing aspect. I for one find the lack of progress astonishing. Because, you know, if you wanted great writing experience you could've used a CrossPad ... 25 years ago. You write on a notebook -- with a quality pen manufactured by Cross as the name suggests -- the CrossPad records it as vector strokes. Done. In 25 years the progress we got is the…
I have contemplated a more fully-functional device, but I don't get the need for OCR - I can type way more accurately on my keyboard than I can write. By a lot. Anyway...
I've had other devices with pens, but never really used them. I got the Remarkable for my wife and it really compels me to use it, but not with any features, just the writing aspect. I can't tell you whether it's the texture, the screen or something else, but it just does. I admit the same could happen with other E Ink writing devices like the Onyx Max Lumi 2, but I don't have any of them to confirm.
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You can use any standard resistive stylus pen though, which you can get for extremely cheap anywhere (and you need to anyway, since the tips will wear down). The only thing their accessory pen adds is a built-in eraser.
The Remarkable tablet uses a Wacom EMR stylus - I picket up a Remarkable 1 from a recycling container and it worked fine with my Samsung Note 8 (or so?) stylus, at least for pressure. Similarly, the Remarkable stylus works with the Samsung Galaxy S21 and S22 Ultra models. Wacom clone styluses are a bit more expensive than resistive styluses, but they can be bought for less than 20$.
Ah, thank you for the clarification. I was told by a friend that he just used cheap brand stylus tips for his Remarkable tablet, I may have misremembered that as resistive styluses
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#317Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Would be nice if you also had an argument with your statement and not just mockery, to prove me wrong. So you make a massive unsubstantiated claim and I have to prove you wrong? I see the way your logic works. Lets see. You've made the claim that "E-ink owns the parents, the fabs and the secret sauce to profitably producing quality e-ink film in good yelds.". So let me ask a simple question. Since you say E-ink own…
Mate, you're going completely off the rails and I'm not sure if you're actively trolling or are misinformed and in denial. E-ink is a manufacturer of the E-ink pigment particles and the EPD film that's then sold to various display manufacturers where it gets sandwiched between glass, an ITO top electrode and a TFT bottom layer connected to a CoG (chip on glass), basically like any other LCD TFT display but instead of…
"Those EPD display manufacturers all depend on buying the e-ink film manufactured by E-ink, at their fab in ."
You think a film is manufactured at a fab? Do you even know what a fab is? Did you think a fab was like a manufacturing plant with vats of liquids? Jesus H Christ.
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#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
> both are making displays based on E-ink's film Jesus H Christ. Sigh... Just have a google again on OED and at least read the first page of their website properly. It is clear to me the level of confidence in your claims corresponds inversely with the level of accuracy of the facts.
You really have no idea what you're talking about. Please read E-ink's website before spreading more disinformation.
You claimed OED buys E-Ink films. Please prove that with some evidence.
Go ahead and google your heart out. You don't work in the display industry which is why you don't know the well known fact that OED is a competitor of E-Ink. They both produce electrophoretic films.
What you said is literally the equivalent of saying Coca Cola buys its secret syrup from Pepsi.
It is so ridiculous. And yet HN is filled with your level of comments on electrophoretics.
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The CCP has long been building a database on people in all countries of strategic interest (U.S., UK, Austrlia, India, etc etc). And not just the prominent people. All the people. [1][2][3][4][5] But hey, tell us again how China is only interested in the Chinese. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-a-... [2] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/china-spent-years-coll... [3] https://www.vice…
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It's china. They have been caught putting chips in servers to infiltrate US companies. It's everywhere. The CCP takes what the CCP wants. If you work for one of these companies like Huawei, or Boox or whatever, when the Chinese government asks you to do something nefarious, you comply because you want to keep existing. They ain't asking.
Caught putting chips in servers is as plausible as putting chips in masks.
After receiving this feedback, I went and reexamined this issue.
It was reported by multiple outlets, but never corroborated.
I sincerely apologize for perpetuating misinformation.
I should have looked at this issue harder when it happened, and again before posting about it.