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Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by sofixa »

fairity wrote: post #262
nopenopenopeno wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, please! You’re just reciting the ridiculous American media. US leaders have been aggressively rallying for war with Russia for many many years, and it has been especially intense over the past few months. Putin is insane, but the US has given him every reason to believe that striking sooner than later is in his best interest. They didn’t have to do that, ya know. Americans have plenty of problems at home, and it…

> US leaders have been aggressively rallying for war with Russia for many many years Source please.

Not at all the person you're responding to, and don't agree in the slightest with their viewpoint, however from what i recall Hillary Clinton was selling herself very tough on Russia in the last election she lost.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by quickthrower2 »

harryvederci wrote: post #199
lurquer wrote: post #146

This is clearly illegal in the US. Both under the ‘hacking’ laws as well as under laws prohibiting private citizens from interfering in international diplomacy. Really surprised such a thread is permitted on HN.

I don't see how it's illegal for a president to ask people from his own country to fill in a form to see if they can volunteer. Can you elaborate?

Not everyone reads the article

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Post by bb123 »

jonathanstrange wrote: post #299
sofixa wrote: post #290

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The problem with that is that Europe needs Russian gas to flow, and Putin knows that.

Not really. Europe would experience a temporary shortage and soaring prices but that's it. The alternative is to let dictator Putin go unpunished, which means he will in the future likely attack another country. There is no doubt about it. Without a strong deterrent and corresponding internal opposition, dictator Putin would seize the first opportunity as long as (in his mind) he'd be reasonably certain that other Eu…

I don’t think you understand how important the gas is in Europe in winter. People will quite literally freeze to death in their homes without it.

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Post by vidarh »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #295
vidarh wrote: post #292

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Ironically given the comment you replied to, Norway is one of them. I had military police trying to reach me the last few weeks before I moved to the UK to try to hand deliver a conscription notice as a necessary step before charging me if I again failed to show up (I'd ignored several prior notices). I didn't leave because of that, but I did delight I telling them I was beyond their reach. Finally picked up the phon…

In Austria and Switzerland military service is also compulsory, but not really because of defense (Austrian military is a joke if push came to shove), but because it's an vast source of free labor for the state. Unless you decide to go full career in the military, once you're done with the month long boot camp, if there's no war, national crisis or natural disaster that will get the grunts mobilized, the rest of the…

> PS: funny that you moved from Norway to London as many brits I've met look up to Norway as a role model

If you're a lower earner, quality of life in Norway is much better, but if you're a higher earner, London is great. And at the time funding in Norway was tricky. But, yeah, I look on British politics with great bemusement and a some sadness - so many lost opportunities.

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Post by sofixa »

ciphol wrote: post #291

A general comment on cyberwarfare. The Russian government/military is probably one of the most formidable cyberwarfare forces in the world (a quick googling lists US, UK, China, Russia, Israel as the top 5 cyberwarfare states, and I assume no non-state organization compares). One would expect them to have deployed their cyberwarfare "forces" against Ukraine. And yet the results were... pretty minimal? Internet traffi…

Weren't a bunch of Ukrainian banks hit just before the invasion? Also there's reportedly a malware that wipes your disk currently spreading in Ukraine.

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Post by sofixa »

HWR_14 wrote: post #46
waffle_maniac wrote: post #41

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Be careful when going outside. A cyber attack might be in progress! But what actually would be good cyber warfare is hacking Putin’s family. Notoriously private and says his family is off limits and he never talks about them. I’m sure his kids aren’t normal like he claims.

John Oliver found his daughters dance/gymnastic performance and aired it a few years ago as part of something. For the daughter of a billionaire dictator, John Oliver made her sound fairly normal.

Do you have a link or name or number of the episode?

> For the daughter of a billionaire dictator, John Oliver made her sound fairly normal

Most people are fairly normal :) Not every rich powerful kid goes full Uday Hussein.

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Post by [deleted] »

Loic wrote: post #248
reitanqild wrote: post #235

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You are probably downvoted for - voluntarily or involuntarily (I cannot judge) - running the errands of the enemies of the free world by suggesting that it is hopeless while it is absolutely not. (Why is it not hopeless? Russian forces suffer large losses and their morale is breaking, after all, what sane person wants to shoot their peaceful neigbours and relatives? Russians are already taking to the streets to prote…

The most important part in what you wrote: > no sane person wants to shoot their peaceful neighbors and relatives and this is the case for all Russians even most of the ones in the army in Ukraine, right now. People do not want war. Period. For a human being to go to war, he/she needs to be heavily indoctrinated to the point of partially losing is normal references. Even today, with heavily indoctrinated armies, only…

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Post by andruby »

sofixa wrote: post #290
qbasic_forever wrote: post #159

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US folks: Call your congressional representatives and demand they back harsh sanctions against Russian oil/gas immediately. Perhaps even a full embargo until aggression is stopped. That is the _only_ leverage the US has against Russia, and as of yet the US has steadfastly refused to do anything that would interrupt the flow or price of oil to itself.

The problem with that is that Europe needs Russian gas to flow, and Putin knows that.

Europe has some gas reserves. We could "see out winter if Russian imports stop" [0]. I personally don't mind wearing an extra sweater or jacket inside if it stops Europe from paying billions to Gazprom.

> While a complete loss of Russian gas imports, currently making up almost half of Germany’s gas needs, “will lead to bottlenecks in some European countries”, supply shortages “would be limited to up to 10% of demand”.

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/23/europe-winter-...

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Post by [deleted] »

Loic wrote: post #248
reitanqild wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are probably downvoted for - voluntarily or involuntarily (I cannot judge) - running the errands of the enemies of the free world by suggesting that it is hopeless while it is absolutely not. (Why is it not hopeless? Russian forces suffer large losses and their morale is breaking, after all, what sane person wants to shoot their peaceful neigbours and relatives? Russians are already taking to the streets to prote…

The most important part in what you wrote: > no sane person wants to shoot their peaceful neighbors and relatives and this is the case for all Russians even most of the ones in the army in Ukraine, right now. People do not want war. Period. For a human being to go to war, he/she needs to be heavily indoctrinated to the point of partially losing is normal references. Even today, with heavily indoctrinated armies, only…

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