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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by xupybd »

ahmed_ds wrote: post #131

I think I speak for the majority of people here. Before the Spotify deal, you would just see couple of Joe Rogan clips on YouTube and you have sat through maybe 3-4 entire podcasts. You don't care much about MMA or you don't think comedians are that important/hypeworthy as the JRE fandom would claim. After the Spotify deal you just slowly stopped even seeing the clips because for some reason you just don't care to se…

Yeah I only watch when he has a guest I'm interested in. He has a great one with Elon Musk. Not many get Elon talking like that. The Babylon bee did a terrible job interviewing Musk. It showed that the host is important.

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Post by TrispusAttucks »

mulletbum wrote: post #307
TrispusAttucks wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify competing with YouTube isn't the root problem. The people calling for censorship are the problem. This is the latest attack in an ongoing war on free speech. We are losing our freedoms. Today it's Joe Rogan's speech tomorrow it's yours.

Joe Rogan got paid by a company to distribute his content with the right to not distribute any portion they want. If anything, Joe Rogan is giving up his free speech. No one is taking it. Anyone can make a podcast and put it out. Zero stopping them other than maybe money to buy a device to record and send it.

Be realistic.

YouTube was really the only other platform option for mass distribution at JRE scale.

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Post by umbos »

umvi wrote: post #45

So we've decided as a society that any opinion that doesn't conform to the majority needs to be silenced? Scary.

No, Spotify has decided that Joe Rogan's spreading of factually incorrect misinformation that could let to material harm is not the type of content that they want to platform. Not equivalent at all.

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Post by mongol »

bitcurious wrote: post #190

The anti-censorship comments here of course resonate with me, but I'm curious about the legality of this. Spotify advertised Rogan and sold paid subscriptions. Now they've unilaterally removed the ability to listen from millions of paying customers, at least some of whom subscribed exclusively for the purpose of listening to JRE. Do these customers have no recourse?

Certainly they have put in words about this in the fine print.

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Post by qaq »

TOMDM wrote: post #218
qaq wrote: post #136

I think this will lead to outcome that few people cheering for this are anticipating. Musk, Thiel etc. will back an alternative platform that will host JRE, Lex, Jordan Peterson etc. and in the long term it will win due to being less restrictive. Which in the long term is prob a positive thing.

Man, I'm not a huge Lex fan, but are we really going to lump him in with Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson? This also speaks to me of a solution in search of a problem. You know what's really non restrictive? Distributing MP3s via RSS.

I am not "lumping" Rogan and Lex :) Rogan, Lex and Musk are friends, Lex often talks about desire of creating an alternative platform, Musk actually replied on Twitter at some point that he is thinking of funding an alternative platform. I bet Chamath Palihapitiya and David Sacks would gladly pile on the funding.

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Post by xupybd »

bachmeier wrote: post #238

Predictably, people break out the C-word. Every business decides what they sell and what they don't. Do they also complain about censorship and shout at the manager of a shoe store for not selling books? Spotify decided they don't want to sell those episodes of JR. That's not censorship, it's business, and it's very different than if it's done by the government.

Being from Australasia, the C-word is a very specific and different word.

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Post by goodguyamericun »

andrewzah wrote: post #295
afavour wrote: post #188

I’m struggling to have sympathy with anyone involved in this. Podcasting has always felt like a resurgence of the “original web” spirit to me: anyone can upload, anywhere. All you need is an RSS feed and anyone can subscribe. Then Spotify came busting in and decided that the open podcasting platform is obsolete and paid Joe Rogan $100 million for exclusive distribution of his content. So they’ve dug their own grave h…

I’ll gladly dig my own career grave for $100 million.

Does JR get it per year?

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Post by Tenoke »

gnicholas wrote: post #305

I wonder what rights Rogan might have to publish these episodes elsewhere, or to litigate their removal. Presumably he didn't sign a contract saying "you can have all my episodes and can remove as many of them as you want from the internet, with zero consequences".

There's almost definitely some exclusivity clause in the contract they signed, even if we don't know the details. I doubt he can republish them unless they fully break off the partnership
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