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Post by Retric »

Volker_W wrote: post #182
Retric wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s begging for some leaky abstraction to absolutely ruin your business.

What do you mean with "leaky abstraction" here?

Abstractions get leaky when underlying assumptions fail to hold. As an example, comparing insurance rates and coverage from different companies via AI is of limited utility if you ignore counter party risks where the companies fail to keep their end of the contract. Of course you can add that or any specific thing I bring up to the model, but you can’t include everything because the model is always simpler than reality.

The desire for AI decisions to be explainable forces them to use even simpler which makes this worse.

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Post by Gigachad »

Arnavion wrote: post #116
ChicagoBoy11 wrote: post #13

I experienced something similar building an internal tool on GSuite. I had a large file with sequences of 9 digit numbers specific to our use-case, all tied to names of people (employees). Whelp, at one point the tool I was working on stopped working, and it was flagged as apparently containing social security numbers (which I suppose matched the character length). Whelp, on the admin panel, you can get a report of t…

This is another case for only pushing encrypted files to storage hosts, unless it's against Google Drive's TOS or something. Has anyone tried it? Did Google complain?

Problem is it makes the apps / integrations useless. I use google drive primarily from my ipad and encrypted files would mean I can't just "save to files" and have it drop in to google drive.

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Post by Gigachad »

leokennis wrote: post #62

15 years ago the first word that came to mind when thinking of Google was “magic”. 10 years ago “useful”. These days it’s just “dread”.

That's what happens when a product gets big and you have to start worrying about how terrorists, pedophiles, and mass copyright crime is being committed on the platform. Hosts like Google have been held legally responsible for the content they host and have acted accordingly.

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Post by labster »

teachrdan wrote: post #149
tyingq wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Update: It has now flagged the file with "0\n" in it. So it's official, Both 0 and 1 are copyrighted :) https://imgur.com/a/xMgh6Xn

Relevant Onion article here: https://www.theonion.com/microsoft-patents-ones-zeroes-18195...

Why is satire so much better at predicting our dumb reality than sci-fi? This is definitely the darkest timeline.

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Post by Gigachad »

lhorie wrote: post #58

I have a pet theory that all of these recent Google bloopers could be explained easily if you start from the assumption that Google internal incentives promote efforts to cut costs such as storage. "Garbage" docs, inactive email accounts, less search results etc can all be reasonably explained by a desire to not spend money on storage for "low value" data (i.e. data that is unlikely to be accessed in a way that trans…

They don't delete flagged content. I have had stuff be flagged and locked and then a while later it gets unblocked. There are much easier ways to prune inactive accounts than to pretend to copyright flag them.

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Post by thfuran »

rezonant wrote: post #295
Barrin92 wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the scale at which Google operates, even if they fixed it within a minute it probably takes some time to test and roll these things out. Sometimes I wonder if people think that infrastructure for billions of people is some sort of magic where you push the fix button and magically everything's solved across the globe.

Sure it'll take time. Google cannot have it both ways though. They have a habit of completely restricting all ways of appealing or contesting these issues ostensibly because they think their tech is so good that it isn't required (at least in the vast majority of cases), and yet we have people permanently locked out of their personal and work GMails for months on end (or indefinitely) and now being accused of copyrig…

>They have a habit of completely restricting all ways of appealing or contesting these issues ostensibly because they think their tech is so good that it isn't required

Are you sure it's not just because providing them would cost money?

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Post by Gigachad »

jacquesm wrote: post #204

Pretty weird that Google would be scanning files for copyright infringement in the first place, it's supposed to be a Drive not the enforcement arm of the copyright mafia.

It's not clear from this tweet but usually google drive only cares about shared files. Lots of people have copyrighted content in their private drives but until you make it public, it doesn't get flagged.

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Post by unclekev »

Meanwhile my Mom uses Google Drive to share pirated movies with family members (despite my protests) and is yet to have a single file flagged.

Just need to name your file something like "Output04.S01E01.NumberOne.1080p.HEVC.x265-MeGusta" and you'll be fine /s

How can they get things so wrong?

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Post by amatecha »

panarky wrote: post #203
ldoughty wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I'm sorry, we can't put you in the system without it.. it wont let us".... I always omit SSN, but often can't get away with it.

My dentist said I couldn't leave the SSN field blank so I filled in 867-53-0909.

It always surprises me how many signup forms on the web require a phone number but still accept a "555" prefix :) If you're not familiar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/555_(telephone_number)

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Post by [deleted] »

josho wrote: post #294
PostOnce wrote: post #254

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Disney robbed us, our children, their children, and possibly generations beyond that with their more-than-a-century copyright terms. I thought about posting this comment the other day and decided not to, but your mention of Disney+ stirred the idea in me again. We have so much modern media about Dracula, Sherlock, Cthulhu, etc, a thousand flowers bloom... new movies, new games, new art of all kinds. Disney & friends…

Really great points. It also manifests in other strange ways that I'd summarize as killing our culture. Think of nursery songs as an example. Recall Little Miss Muffet sitting on a tuffet eating her curds and whey. I mean what is a tuffet, who eats curds and whey? The reason we don't have nursery rhymes in present day is that any of those songs are wrapped up in copyright and can't legally be shared. The only saving…

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