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Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
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#312Do a chargeback with your credit card provider, at least you can twist the knife back a bit.
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#313By far the best part is they didn't automatically cancel his subscription. What a horrible company, if you've banned my account that's fine but cancel the subscription and refund my money. If y'all haven't looked at it yet, read up on the FCC's filing against Match. They knowingly prompt up tons of fake profiles, to get you engaged. Horrifically this has lead to romance scams being the number one source of fraud in t…
> By far the best part is they didn't automatically cancel his subscription. What a horrible company, if you've banned my account that's fine but cancel the subscription and refund my money.
Could this have something to do with subscribing through the App Store? Maybe there is something in Apple's ToS, or some limitation in their billing API that prevents them from doing this.
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#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
You shouldn't be taking pareto claims on a sample size of n=27 seriously There are apple flavored flat earth medicine studies with stronger statistics
It's been shown plenty of other places, including by OKCupid, which why I qualified with "kind of thing." It's common knowledge at this point.
There's lots of common 'knowledge' in social psychology including studies done by serious reputable researchers that turns out to not be so. This is a big enough issue that it's termed the "replication crisis". So, yes, maybe. Maybe not.
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#315Earlier quoted context omitted.
The right to remain silent is a vital right in criminal court cases, but certainly doesn't apply to our own conclusions. Consider that only Tinder has records indicating whether there was a ToS violation, and what that violation was. Tinder is not releasing those records. Tinder has a financial incentive to claim that there is a ToS violation. Putting those three items together isn't proof that Tinder is lying, but i…
How do you know the blog author doesn't have evidence of a ToS violation (that they're not sharing)? Similar incentives to shade the story exist on both sides, I think.
I trust that tinder has an incentive to steal money to a greater extent than blog author has an incentive to get internet points.
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#316This is pretty disturbing considering how necessary dating apps are today. Let's say you get banned from Tinder and consequently Bumble. What do you do now? You can create fake accounts, but they'll eventually find you. Coffee Meets Bagel? Plenty of Fish? Match.com? Don't make me laugh. It's already bad enough that women find it strange that a guy doesn't have an Instagram account (this has been my experience 90% of…
Just a side note - Instagram accounts are nice because they offer social proof. A lot of people feel more comfortable meeting a stranger one-on-one if they have some idea that the person has a life, friends, etc.
As for the rest, it sounds like speculative nonsense. I date and know a lot of people who actively date. There are more and better options today to meet more and better people - not less. Not by a longshot.
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#317From Tinder's ToS: > Tinder may terminate your account at any time without notice if it believes that you have violated this Agreement. Upon such termination, you will not be entitled to any refund for purchases. > For residents of the Republic of Korea, except in the case [...], we will without delay notify you of the reason for taking the relevant step. They openly say in advance that they'll ban users who they thi…
ToS's are usually wishful thinking and only legally binding against users in the weakest sense.
Illegal business practices are not made legitimate because they were proscribed by the ToS.
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#318I just lost my IG account after having it for literally a decade. Short story: I thought my engagement was low, so I manually went through my not-very-large follower list (2400 or so) in the IG app, identified about 100 accounts that I thought were bots (accounts that were following 6000+ people), and then went to each one and removed them as a follower. I made it about 40 in when suddenly I got meaningless errors, l…
>All of the avenues to contact Instagram are meaningless and don’t lead anywhere. I feel you. I got permabanned from tinder when I emailed their support asking how the verification process worked with couples. They replied with a ban notice and I was confused, turns out couples profiles are against Tinders T&C. I hadn't actually done ANYTHING to violate their T&C in-app yet, just asking their support about it was eno…
> To top it off, they embedded a secret key in my iOS keychain that synced across all devices.
If you’re in the EU or from the EU it might be possible to nag them with data protection request.
Of course only if you enjoy nagging.
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#319All major companies are like this. I.E.: Google Accounts, Reddit, etc...
I am in the process of finding alternate non-reddit sources to match my reddit subs... and moving out of Google.
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#320Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That's called shadowban in the case of OP. I’d call that fraud. If you pay for a service you get to use the service.
No, banning someone from a paid service is not fraud.
Colloquially and technically "ban" and "shadowban" are different things; I have no idea what happened in OP case but "shadowban" means that you leave someone in a system but silently block all of their interactions.
e.g. ban: you try to log into HN and it gives you a message: "You can't log in, you are banned"
shadowban: you log in to HN with your account, you post comments and vote on stories but unknown to you nobody else on HN can see this. Eventually you start to wonder why you never get replies anymore.
It's definitely an ethical issue if you are doing the latter without telling someone, and additionally charging them for the service you aren't providing.
With a dating app it might be hard to tell for a while; how are you to know that you aren't getting any replies/engagement because of the way such sites work, or because the people you contacted never saw the likes/messages/whatever.