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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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I tried to monitor services status using https://stop.lying.cloud , but they are also hosted to AWS, and down too.

Now that they're back up they're not reporting any problems, how is it supposed to work? It looks like it is just repeating the status reported on the Amazon status page.

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Many years ago I stood at the window of my comfortable apartment, watching wind and cold rain rage outside. I thought about my cave men ancestors who during such a storm if they needed water would have to go out and get it, getting themselves soaked. If I wanted water, the tap in the kitchen would give it to me, in a nice controlled fashion. If I did feel like having water rain down upon me, my shower would do that,…

> Then I realized that I don't know how to build the systems that I was relying on for my supposed superiority, or even how some of them work. I used to have this joke(?) with my friends: remember Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King's Arthur Court"? The titular Yankee basically upends the (faux) medieval society he gets transported to, "inventing" all sorts of technological miracles. Well, I'm a software devel…

Do i have the T-shirt for you:

https://topatoco.com/products/qw-cheatsheet

And the T-shirt's companion bandana and spin-off book:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/a23286104/how-to-in...

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

That sounds like the setup of Asimov's Foundation series

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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So long as you live in a city you are probably forgetting most of the ways to survive. I could not even try to discover which berries are edible without killing myself. However, I can teach advanced maths to a largish group of students without much trouble.

> I could not even try to discover which berries are edible without killing myself. Eat a small amount and see if you get sick? Science in the wild...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_McCandless#Theories_of_m...

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Must be a Y in the day. It amazes me how many projects exist that don't even have multi-region capability, let alone no single point of failure

Multi-region is difficult and expensive, and a lot of projects aren't that important. Most of our infrastructure just isn't that vital; we'd rather take the occasional outage than spend the time and money implementing the sort of active-active multi-region infrastructure that a "correct" implementation would use. We took the recent 8 hour us-east-1 outage on the nose and have not reconsidered this plan. It was a calc…

Curios if you tell your customers you’re totally ok with having lower than 99.9 availability

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

Many years ago I stood at the window of my comfortable apartment, watching wind and cold rain rage outside. I thought about my cave men ancestors who during such a storm if they needed water would have to go out and get it, getting themselves soaked. If I wanted water, the tap in the kitchen would give it to me, in a nice controlled fashion. If I did feel like having water rain down upon me, my shower would do that,…

> I'm really just a cave man that found a nicer cave.

You aren't really - most cavemen didn't even understand that fire is possible, and wouldn't be able to consistently operate a lighter if they found one (it'd probably be put on an altar and worshipped instead, as it should). You might not be able to build your entire cave, but your education alone is a _huge_ advantage!

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> Then I realized that I don't know how to build the systems that I was relying on for my supposed superiority, or even how some of them work. I used to have this joke(?) with my friends: remember Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King's Arthur Court"? The titular Yankee basically upends the (faux) medieval society he gets transported to, "inventing" all sorts of technological miracles. Well, I'm a software devel…

A light, enjoyable read along these lines is Leo Frankowski's "high tech knight" series, starting with The Cross-time Engineer . The main character -- a real engineer -- gets transported back to medieval Poland, and he knows that he's got ten years either to bug out, or help Poland defend itself from the coming Mongol invasion. [I only liked the first four books, but that's enough to cover the original story arc]

"Deathworld 2" by Harry Harrison has a plot along those lines. Apparently the original name was "The Ethical Engineer".

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Must be a Y in the day. It amazes me how many projects exist that don't even have multi-region capability, let alone no single point of failure

IDK, don't you end up with a bunch of extra costs? Like you're going to literally pay more money because now you have cross region replication charges, and then you're going to pay a latency cost, and then you may end up needing to overprovision your compute, etc. All to go from, idk, 99.9% uptime to 99.95% (throwing out these numbers)? The thing is when AWS goes down so much of the internet goes down that companies…

If you just sat that there and took that 8 hour outage you’re barely even 99.9 for the year

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> Then I realized that I don't know how to build the systems that I was relying on for my supposed superiority, or even how some of them work. I used to have this joke(?) with my friends: remember Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King's Arthur Court"? The titular Yankee basically upends the (faux) medieval society he gets transported to, "inventing" all sorts of technological miracles. Well, I'm a software devel…

Inventing the printing press was more difficult than it seems at first. In addition to the idea of unsing movable type significant development of the correct alloys for the types was necessary. The alloy needs to be able to be cast easily and at the same time be durable to be reused for a large enough number of print runs. In addition the proper ink needs to be developed...

Right, let me amend my statement: I understand how the printing press with movable type works and I would be able to explain it to King Arthur, but I probably wouldn't be able to actually craft the types, inks, etc, and so the annoyed King would have me beheaded.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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... because you need to contact a server 1000 miles away to issue badges in your building. This cloud-for-everything-even-local-devices thing is both hilarious and sad. I wonder if anyone had trouble doing their dishes or laundry today, because I'm sure someone thought dish washers and washing machines needed cloud.

I don't know if you can say an on-premise badge hosting service would be more reliable than the cloud.

well, atleast you have the agency to do something about it yourself.

also, building access systems should be hosted in the building they reside in for security reasons anyways.

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