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Re: Preventing extreme polarization of political attitudes

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Post by edmcnulty101 » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 5:36 AM UTC

DarylZero wrote: post #280

edmcnulty101 wrote: post #196

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So no guns found inside the capitol? Not a single gun was found inside of the location where it's claimed it's claimed they were trying to overthrow? Not a single shot went off? Just poop on the walls? Can you overthrow a government by making it so gross with poo that they don't want to go back in the building? I don't believe this should be labeled an insurrection.

Because they didn't leave any guns behind after they stormed the capitol building, that proves how innocent they are? Silly.

They walked in, didn't use the guns, didn't brandish the guns, didnt even display the guns for any cameras to see.

Yet they pooped on the walls and broke a podium.

How peoole view this as an insurrection, seems silly to me.

Re: Preventing extreme polarization of political attitudes

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Post by edmcnulty101 » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 5:44 AM UTC

DarylZero wrote: post #282

edmcnulty101 wrote: post #169

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The gish gallop of the person I was responding too, of numerous paragraphs and links, took time out of my life to parse... and turned out to be a SINGLE PERSON found with a gun on capitol grounds not even in the capitol. It's as disengenous, demonizing of a group, and sensational as it gets. This poster is also using the same single person as their data point for the motivations of the entire group of protesters. Thi…

They were all allowed to leave the capitol building without being arrested. There wasn't the police manpower to arrest them. No one was arrested inside the capitol building. If the lack of arrests inside the building prove there were no guns -- it proves there were no people, either.

Hm not even a camera recording of a gun? Something?

The protestors did poop on the walls.

That's insurrection of lunch thinking about it.

Re: Preventing extreme polarization of political attitudes

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Post by DarylZero » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 9:54 AM UTC

edmcnulty101 wrote: post #312

DarylZero wrote: post #282

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They were all allowed to leave the capitol building without being arrested. There wasn't the police manpower to arrest them. No one was arrested inside the capitol building. If the lack of arrests inside the building prove there were no guns -- it proves there were no people, either.

Hm not even a camera recording of a gun? Something? The protestors did poop on the walls. That's insurrection of lunch thinking about it.

No one said there wasn't a camera recording of a gun.

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Post by DarylZero » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:04 AM UTC

edmcnulty101 wrote: post #304

DarylZero wrote: post #290

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Not sure what you're asking or why. He was one of the rest of the pro-Trump crowd that you have been calling "protesters." He heeded the call of Trump. You sound to me a bit like Matt Gaetz saying it was Antifa storming the capitol.

Its very different story if there were bombs brought into the capitol. That would start looking more like an insurrection instead of a protest. However there were none.

It's really not important to the story either way.

The mob stormed Congress.

Their evident motive was to stop the electoral certification of the president-elect and keep in power an unelected president.

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Post by DarylZero » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:09 AM UTC

totony wrote: post #292

DarylZero wrote: post #276

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Trump tried to overturn the election result for _months_. It wasn't just one day and it certainly wasn't just "voters." Even the people in the GOP who refused to back his coup attempt did not sever ties with Trump.

Overthrowing a vote which was manipulated is not a coup. What Trump did is he challenged the rightfulness of the vote for months in court. That's a far cry from what you're describing. Now, you may disagree (as the courts) that it was manipulated. Being wrong does not make what he did a coup.

It's a classic modern coup, to tell lies about the election and discard it.

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Dec 26, 2021, 12:45 AM UTC

pvaldes wrote: post #295

Manuel_D wrote: post #173

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So out of thousands of protesters, three were armed and none of which used their weapons during the supposed insurrection. As per your own definition, an insurrection is made "for the specific purpose of overthrowing the constituted government and seizing its powers". How does occupying the Capitol building translate into controlling the government? Are the military, the IRS, and all the other government institutions…

> had no real or tangible plan of seizing the government The degree of detachment from reality is awesome. They had a plan, and it was clear and public. Lets see: We are talking of people breaking in the capitol, smashing windows and doors while shouting: "Lets find and kill the Vice president of USA" "And also the president of the chamber of representatives of USA" "And lets stop the new president of USA taking powe…

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